I am 27 ... single, well educated, have a career, own my house ... and I want to move to Mexico! (I know my life should be better than this!)
Wild_Thing
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Does Your JW Family Do This?????????
by Wild_Thing inokay ... here's what happened .... first, some background ... i am the youngest of three daughters raised in the org (we are third generation), and i left for good more than four years ago (i left in my heart a long time before that).
they tried to shun me for a while, but couldn't keep it up any longer than 6 months, and after that we slowly got close again.
my mother and sisters are all still witnesses.
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Does Your JW Family Do This?????????
by Wild_Thing inokay ... here's what happened .... first, some background ... i am the youngest of three daughters raised in the org (we are third generation), and i left for good more than four years ago (i left in my heart a long time before that).
they tried to shun me for a while, but couldn't keep it up any longer than 6 months, and after that we slowly got close again.
my mother and sisters are all still witnesses.
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Wild_Thing
Okay ... here's what happened ...
First, some background ... I am the youngest of three daughters raised in the org (we are third generation), and I left for good more than four years ago (I left in my heart a long time before that). They tried to shun me for a while, but couldn't keep it up any longer than 6 months, and after that we slowly got close again. My mother and sisters are all still witnesses. Anyway, my oldest sister has been going through this God awful custody battle, and I allowed her and her daughter to live in my home for a year. (It didn't go well ... I ended up having to ask her to leave (as nicely as I could) .. and a lot more I won't go into.)
Anyway, during the time she lived with me, she started smoking cigarettes. I knew she was doing it, and I knew she was hiding it. I didn't say anything because I didn't want to cause a stink and I really considered it none of my business. Besides that, we come from the ultimate in dysfunctional families and we don't TALK about anything! (I think my family invented the whole big elephant in the living room thing!) I was a little worried about her getting in trouble, but she was baptized when she was 12, and is not even a publisher now (hasn't been one for 10+ years). She is so much of a quasi-witness, she barely registers as a bleep on the radar!
One evening, a month before she moved out, her daughter dug into her purse without permission and found the cigarettes (no one in my famlily has boundaries, hence no one saw the problem of her digging in her purse without permission ... go figure!) This all happened at a restaurant in front of me and the rest of my JW family. Her daughter was very visably upset and asked to ride back to the house with her other aunt (my other sister). At this point no one knew why she was upset, but she told my other sister and her elder-husband about the cigarettes on the ride back to my house. They had been suspecting anyway because of the smell, and my neice, who is 16 put 2 + 2 together and told them about all the "errands" she had been leaving the house to go do.
When they arrived, my cigarette-smoking sister went inside for "something" (don't know what ... maybe to get rid of the evidence?) I was outside with my other sister as she told me about what my neice had found and she asked me if I knew that our sister had been smoking cigarettes. I started crying and told her truth, and starting going off on how ridiculous it is for them to condemn her like I knew they were going to do, etc. and I knew it would happen sometime to one of us, and it was just a matter of time before they did it to my neice (who is a teenager). I pretty much lost it! She assured me that no matter what, they would not shun her. (She tried to tell me that things are not like they use to be in the organization when we were kids ... whatever!)
After all this happened and I had gone my own way for the evening, they confronted her about smoking and she adamantly denied the whole thing. My teenage neice said she knew what she saw and could even tell them the brand. My sister continued to call her own daughter a liar and she called me a liar. This was told to me later by my other sister, and honestly, I did not know what to say. I told her that I have never actually seen her smoke one, so they can't do anything about it anyway. (I really didn't intend to rat her out, I just knew ... or thought I knew ... that it had gone so far, she couldn't hide it anymore.) She continued to deny it, no matter what .. even to me privately ... and I had been defending her!
Now ... I am torn. I understand her desire for self-preservation, and I hate to think of the ultimate price of being df'd, but I am absoultely furious that she called myself and her own daughter a liar! How do I resolve this within myself?? I have been discussing this with her via email about how it bothered me and she has zero remorse (or so it seems) that she saved her ass at the cost of my neice and myself. It has been dropped within the family, and our other sister and her husband did not make it an elder matter (bless their hearts), but I am still left with this wedge between my sister and myself over this whole thing. I tried explaining to her that yes, I understand her fears, but because of her lying about it, it left my family not knowing who to believe, and it left me not knowing if I can trust what she says about about anything (because she still denies it even to me).
Have you ever heard of such a mess?? I am so mad at her for lying. She is lying to herself too, and insisting on staying in a religion that she is so obviously unhappy with! I told her that if they were going to cut anyone off, it would have been me a long time ago! I have blatently rebeled against the religion and done A LOT of no-nos. They let me leave quietly and so far, have not come after, and I have a great relationship with my family (except for my lying b**** of a sister!)
So ... how do I let this go?
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Give the JW experience a BOOK title.
by qwerty inpinching following on fromprestons idea of the movie theme i'll start...................... pride and prejudice.
wuthering brooklyn heights.
the awakening.
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Wild_Thing
Oh, the Places You Can Never Go! ... by Dr. Seuss, of course!
Another Dr. Suess ... Oh the Thinks You Can't Think! (original title is Oh, the Thinks You Can Think for all you non-Dr.Suess fans)
Actually, its pretty funny to look at the titles of a lot Dr.Suess books and think about the JWs ... LOL!
How about ... How Rutherford Stole Christmas!
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I did it!!
by Scully ini finally gave all my meeting clothes the heave-ho!!
i've been on a closet cleaning binge and finally decided it was time to donate all of these old things to a local women's shelter.
i figured some of these ladies may have nothing decent to wear if they need to go job hunting, so my old meeting clothes, shoes, and handbags would at least serve a noble purpose in their recycled lifetimes.. for some reason, i hung on to them for the last several years, knowing full-well that i would never set foot in a kingdom hall ever again.
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Wild_Thing
Good for you, Scully! I have been hanging onto a single box of old literature in the same way! At first, I thought I might need it if I ever had to argue with my family on why my left (I thought I could use their own literaure against them.) Now, I don't know why I am hanging onto it at all! I thought about selling the stuff on ebay ... it is amazing what people will pay for old watchtower crap! The box is still sitting in the back of some closet in the basement.
As far as my Kingdom Hall wardrobe ... I slowly phased it out, giving most of it to goodwill. A lot of it I kept because I can use it to wear to my current job. But, when I first left the org, I went through a phase where I would not even where a skirt to work because they felt like Kingdom Hall clothes!!! I got over it, and wear a skirt or dress every once in a while.
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normal for young jws to have "worldly" friends
by pickle insince many folks here were raised as a jw, just curious, when u were younger(20's).
did u have close worldly friends?
by friends, i don't mean just someone to go hang out at the mall or something.
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Wild_Thing
Nope, nope, and nope. I never had "worldly" friends as a kid. As a young adult in my 20's, the only association I had with "worldlies" were as study buddies for the college courses I was taking ... i would hardly consider then friends. When I started a career (God-forbid!) was when I really starting having worldly friends who helped me find the guts I needed to actually leave!
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Wild_Thing
No ... I don't think so. They are all drinking wine. I have never seen JWs print up an illustration of a GROUP of people drinking (and appear to be enjoying it!)
One of the white brothers has his hair just a little too long ... it is BELOW the neck line (gasp!) Also, those sisters are showing just a little too much skin with their choice of dress! Especially the one at the bottom of the pic ... she needs to be pulled into the back room and be counseled!
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Nice dinner last night Guess who I met
by SheilaM inwe had a wonderful meet-up again with mr.barthoss and wildthing....
we can't wait to have them (they are friends so don't be thinkin anything weird) over for dinner.
they got to see the madonia abode ....which is another story lol
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Wild_Thing
WildThing and I are white hot lovers, and I don't care if the whole world knows it!!!!!!!
Why am I always to last to know!?!
And yes, yes ... Sheila and Thunder do have swords on the wall in the bedroom! Kinky! Phalic symbols on the wall ... a screen name like Thunder Rider ... I am starting to see a clear picture here!
In all seriously though, it is nice to see a couple still so much in love! I have hope!!!!!
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Illustration of burning cities while JW's rejoice?
by gaiagirl ini remember once seeing an older watchtower publication, i believe it was a study book from the late '60s or early '70s, in which one illustration showed a city with large buildings in the background, all burning and in ruins.
in the foreground, a group of well-groomed jw's smile joyously and raise their arms in praise to jehovah, apparantly thanking him for destroying civilization, but at least allowing them to live.
the picture was a little unsettling at the time, and now with the threat of terrorism, even more so.. does anyone remember which publication this image was from?
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Wild_Thing
Gotta love that Quotes webpage!!!!
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Nice dinner last night Guess who I met
by SheilaM inwe had a wonderful meet-up again with mr.barthoss and wildthing....
we can't wait to have them (they are friends so don't be thinkin anything weird) over for dinner.
they got to see the madonia abode ....which is another story lol
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Wild_Thing
Yes! We had a great time! I see a great friendship in our future! We will definitely be getting together again. (And thanks for putting any rumors to rest before they start!)
Special K ... the dog did not jump on us at all, but he didn't really have a chance. The kitties, however, were quite friendly ... and beautiful! ( I love cats!) We even eyed the iguana for a bit while we visited!
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Wild_Thing
It depends on what your definition of terrorist is ... here is Merriam Webster's definition:
Main Entry: ter·ror·ism
Pronunciation: 'ter-&r-"i-z&m
Function: noun
: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion
- ter·ror·ist / -&r-ist / adjective or noun
- ter·ror·is·tic / "ter-&r-'is-tik / adjectiveMain Entry: ter·ror
Pronunciation: 'ter-&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French terreur, from Latin terror, from terrEre to frighten; akin to Greek trein to be afraid, flee, tremein to tremble -- more at TREMBLE
1 : a state of intense fear
2 a : one that inspires fearKinda scary to think about it when you look up the definition.
But what people now-a-days typically think of when they hear "terrorist" is probably quite different ... to which JWs have few, if any, similarities.
