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Friday, February 18, 2005 · Last updated 5:02 p.m. PT
Members of family arrested in wide-ranging identity theft probe
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
VANCOUVER, Wash. -- Four people accused of buying millions of dollars worth of real estate and cars in an identity theft scam that victimized Jehovah's Witnesses and the elderly have been jailed in California, authorities say.
Mildreada Andrews, 45; her daughter, Melanie Marie Andrews, 22; her son, Michael Lee Andrews, 24; and her daughter-in-law, Isis Andrews, 19, were arrested in the past week, 18 months after they fled Clark County, said Bill Hanley, a Palm Springs, Calif., police detective.
Investigators believe they were stealing identities to use in getting health care jobs, possibly to steal the identities of patients, Hanley told The Columbian of Vancouver.
Family members used their intelligence, charm and religious connections to defraud hundreds of people through complex schemes in Washington and other states over a period of years, said Vancouver police Detective Edward L. Hewitt. They even had a "fictitious but usable" birth certificate in Spanish to show the mother's Cuban heritage, he said.
"With them being bilingual, they are very charming and persuasive, then they have the church attachment to give them some credibility," Hewitt said. "They're running the typical confidence scam."

It's hard to estimate the amount of money stolen, he said. Homes worth $3.4 million were involved in the metropolitan area of Vancouver and Portland, Ore., he said, although the amounts lost are difficult to determine because of complex mortgage transactions. Cars worth $90,000 were recovered in Vancouver, he said.
Three of the four were held Friday at the Riverside County Jail in Riverside, Calif. Melanie Andrews was charged with identity theft, forgery and perjury. Isis Andrews was charged with identity theft; Michael Lee Andrews was held on a fugitive warrant from another state. It was not immediately clear where Mildreada Andrews was Friday.
"I'm elated," Hewitt said. "These people were real manipulators."
A spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney's office in Seattle refused to confirm or deny reports of a federal investigation.
Hewitt said the family moved to the area in 2001 or 2002, used a number of aliases and contacted some victims through Jehovah's Witnesses, then fled after the son and daughter were arrested in 2003.
The matriarch, who has a 57-page criminal history, posed as a tax preparer to get Social Security numbers of church members and their children, and investigators believe she may have falsified tax returns to get refunds for her clients, police said.
Some or all of the refunds were deposited electronically in a bank account she controlled, Hewitt said.
Stolen Social Security numbers, meanwhile, were used to produce fake income tax returns, W-2 forms and pay stubs that were used to borrow money for the purchase of 13 area homes worth an estimated $3.4 million and at least eight new cars, he said.
The family took out second mortgages on the homes, converted garages into apartments and contracted to provide care for elderly people who were housed in the converted garages, he said.
The Andrews clan hired illegal immigrants and others to provide that care, family members dispensed drugs and performed other services without the required licenses, and the group stole credit cards, cash and the identities of the elderly clients, Hewitt said.
He said the women worked in dialysis clinics in the metropolitan area of Vancouver and Portland, Ore., representing themselves as licensed practical nurses or registered nurses, then would leave the jobs when they were required to produce their credentials.
Hewitt said state agencies in Oregon and Washington that regulate adult day care homes are investigating.
"It was nonstop criminal activity," Hewitt said. "The fallout will continue for years to come."
He said the theft of children's Social Security numbers may not become apparent until years from now, when a young person tries to buy something and finds that his or her credit has already been destroyed.
Family members used their proceeds for expensive furniture such as leather couches, top-quality clothing, and electronics items, Hewitt said.
Hewitt said the operation began to unravel when a Columbia Credit Union credit investigator became suspicious about four car loan applications from family members.
In September 2003, police arrested Miguel D. Hernandez, also known as Michael Andrews, and his sister, Melania R. Hernandez, also known as Melanie Andrews, for investigation of identity theft, first-degree theft and possession of stolen property.
Two days later, authorities believe, the pair persuaded a member of their church to put up his house as bail and fled.

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Members of JW family arrested in wide-ranging identity theft probe

by Wild_Thing in

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friends

the plight of the gullible!

"guess what, honey!

some of the "friends" offered to do our taxes for free!

Wild_Thing

Oh! The plight of the gullible!

"Guess what, honey! Some of the "friends" offered to do our taxes for free! What a blessing being in Jehovah's organization!"

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SIGNS NEVER SEEN ON THE KINGDOM HALL BULLETIN BOARD.

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jehovah's witness blood drive...

Wild_Thing

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JW Wife Beater ... News Article

by Wild_Thing in

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http://www.leedstoday.net/viewarticle2.aspx?sectionid=39&articleid=938994 violent streak emerged just days after we were married

exclusive.

by geoff fox.

http://www.leedstoday.net/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=39&ArticleID=938994 Violent streak emerged just days after we were married Exclusive By Geoff Fox IT was supposed to be happily ever after. After a whirlwind romance, Jehovah's Witnesses Eileen and John Daley tied the knot on September 19 last year at a lavish ceremony held at the Kingdom Hall centre in Undercliffe where they had first met. But just three months and one day later their relationship reached boiling point when Daley flew into a rage and threw scalding tea over his wife.
He claims he was angry because his wife had suggested he was a gold digger.
But Mrs Daley dismissed that as a lie, saying her husband ? who had not worked a full week in the time she had known him ? had been in a rage for hours after several banks turned down his request for a loan to start a domestic cleaning business.
Speaking exclusively to the YEP, Mrs Daley told how her husband's violent streak had first revealed itself less than a fortnight after their wedding ? which had been attended by 170 guests.
Over the next 12 weeks the violence and mood swings grew, but she said she forgave him each time because the rest of their relationship was so good.
"We were really wonderful together," said Mrs Daley, a former model and window dressing manager.
"We did everything, we were learning Latin American dancing, and used to go to shows. We were like two daft kids.
"People said we were absolutely made for each other. They said it was unbelievable."
Bizarre
The couple had met in 2001 at the Kingdom Hall Centre at a Jehovah's Witnesses meeting.
It wasn't until the end of 2003 that romance began to blossom when Daley ? who had previously met and married a cancer victim 35 years older than him ? went out for dinner with Eileen. Within weeks he proposed.
Mrs Daley, whose first husband died in 1995, says she dismissed it out of hand at first but he popped the question again on several occasions before she finally agreed to go down the aisle.
"We had been a couple for nine months before we were married. He said he would've married me at the registry office any weekend and wearing anything. I joked with him 'is there something you're hiding?'"
Her joke was far closer to the mark than she dared realise.
It was shortly after returning from honeymoon at Center Parcs in Nottingham that Daley grabbed his wife by the wrist. It was the first indication her husband was not all he seemed.
Daley moved in with his new bride at her Rodley home, putting his own house at Holybrook Avenue in Bradford's Greengates up for sale.
Mrs Daley described some of his behaviour as bizarre.
He took to wearing dark glasses at all times, sitting in near darkness in the evenings and claiming he was light sensitive. He even wore the glasses on his wedding day, only taking them off for the few minutes vows were exchanged.
"He was more like a Victorian husband at times," said mother-of-two Mrs Daley. "In that respect, he was older than me. He once said 'I've never been out with a lady before with short sleeves and her arms showing'.
"He had old ideas both in terms of dress and decoration. He used to pick me up on things like when my underskirt was showing. It's a bit sick really."
His behaviour prompted him to seek medical advice where he was told to go to anger management classes ? but the classes failed to curb his temper.
Despite being unable to hold down a string of odd jobs including cleaning and catering, Daley harboured ambitions to set up his own company ? even purchasing a mobile phone and brief case a week before trawling around banks trying to secure a business loan.
Shame
Their negative response, coupled with his wife's refusal to loan him the money he needed, sparked a series of events on December 20 that led to him throwing boiling water over her neck and chest.
"After he had done it he just stood and stared. His face was like a mask. I looked at him and thought: 'I don't want to ring the police'.
"I rung my daughter instead. I was in shock. He denied it when she came up with her husband."
She added: "I daren't sit down. My head was spinning. He said to my daughter 'I'm not going, all this is mine, she is mine, I've bought her'."
Mrs Daley's daughter called the police who arrested him and took him away. That was the last time she saw him.
"He has had a very, very bad life. He was put into care with his brothers when he was nine months old. He has never been involved in anything stable in his life. I thought when he married me I could make him stable.
"I feel so ashamed about what's happened. I keep wondering if there's anything I could have said to stop it happening. I would never think in my wildest dreams that this would have happened."
Mrs Daley said she was "absolutely disgusted" with the five-month sentence her husband received at court, claiming it made a mockery of British justice.
She said she had received a great deal of support from fellow Jehovah's Witnesses adding that her husband's actions totally contravened the strong moral code of their faith which states a husband must treat his wife as his own body.
She does not have grounds to annul the marriage but is now considering divorce, although official proceedings cannot start until the first anniversary of the marriage.
"I cannot hate him," she confessed. "I feel sorry for him."
But she added: "The times I've taken him back and forgiven him. He wouldn't leave his past alone. He thought the world owed him a living. He couldn't hide his other side.
"I would tell other women what has happened to me and let them make up their own mind. I wouldn't have married him if I'd known all this."
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Elders Wives

by Octavia in

jw
friends

ever wonder how some of those brothers wrote such elloquent talks?

i just found out ( puternut told me) their wives wrote them for them.

that must be why they always clapped so loud for their husbands!

Wild_Thing

You don't get to be an elder by being a total boob.

Ironically, it happens. If you are not a total boob before you are made an elder, you become one shortly after. Do I sound a little bitter? I am. My sleazy, abusing, deceitful, no good dad was an elder for the better part of my childhood, and the other elder cronies were not much better. He was made an elder when he shouldn't have been and remained one for FAR too long!

It might be easy to believe they're all stupid, faceless fools, but it does take SOME intelligence to rise in ANY organization, no matter what it is.

No, it really doesn't. It takes saying the right things to right people, and being related to the right people. I am specifically refering to the WT organization when I say that, but it can be applied to a lot of organizations.

My dad was a brilliant speaker and writer... and as a result a good Elder. I'd like to think I got some of my writing talent from him.

Luckily, I take after my mom and can write pretty well AND pronounce words.

Also, I have to say this to everyone ... while you think it may be rare for wives to write talks for their elder husbands, it may also happen more frequently than you realize. No one knew that my mother stayed home from service to get up his talk because he waited until the last minute and didn't do it. No one knew she wrote most of his public Sunday talks for him. I don't think it is something that would necessarily be known to even the most keen observer.

By the way ... all this happened in the deep East Texas piney woods. Anyone else care to vouch for the level of stupidity found in those parts? (Particularly the elder bodies.)

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riddle

by mamas in

jw
friends

i am not alive .

he that sent me became king.

he who received me died.

Wild_Thing

Woot-woot! Kay-Kay! (and you too, IP_SEC!!!!) It's funny because most little kids get that riddle right away and adults tend to rack their brains with it! Nothing is supposed to be the correct answer ... I have a lot of conflict about my belief in God right now, so ... so much for the riddle!

And FMZ ... I am pretty positive about the answer to the first riddle and you are on the right track, but still not there. Ironically, the answer is FIVE letters, and it does have to do with what you put in your coded answer.

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riddle

by mamas in

jw
friends

i am not alive .

he that sent me became king.

he who received me died.

Wild_Thing

I got nothing on that one, count me out too :P

You sly dog!

Wild_Thing

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