I see a lot of ex-JWs struggle with this, including me. Honestly, I think it is conditioning learned from the witneses. To them, everything is either black or white ... there is no grey area. It is hard to find that balance in things. I think there is a place for the idea of working at something whole souled, but not all the time.
Wild_Thing
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As Ex JWs are we "All or Nothing"?
by Sirona inas ex jehovahs witnesses, do you think we apply the "all or nothing" rule to non-jw things?
do you remember the scriptures cited in revelation regarding being "luke-warm" and being "spewed out of"..jehovahs mouth?
i realised recently that i do actually view things as "all or nothing".
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1975 Article: The Mental Health of Jehovah's Witnesses
by Wild_Thing intaken from http://bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/abstract/126/6/556
the british journal of psychiatry 126: 556-559 (1975).
1975 the royal college of psychiatrists the mental health of jehovah's witnesses
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Wild_Thing
Yeah, the witnesses encourage everything to counteract healthy ways of thinking and dealing with things. Instead of really dealing with the problem, you are told to "pray more" and/or "wait on Jehovah"! And to really make someone crazy, they tell them it is them ...and they are not doing enough to trust in Jehovah.
I also think they exasterbate more serious mental problems with their persecutorial complex. "Everyone is after us! Trust no one that challenges Jehovah's borganization"! What a perfect place for a paranoid schizophrenic!
I tend to lean toward the thinking that if you weren't crazy when you joined the witnesses, you soon became crazy afterwards!
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Boycott Tom Cruise and his Mission Impossible 3 movie!
by Elsewhere inthe church of scientology is trying to censor comedy central because of the scientology south park episode!
please write to comedy central about the scientology episode!.
please express support for south park and denounce the way tom cruise is trying to censor south park!
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Wild_Thing
The only reason people were going to see it anyhow is to watch a 'car wreck' on screen.
I agree! But... Tom Cruise is like watching a train wreck. He horrible to watch, but you just can't look away! I am referring more to his "off screen" perfomances that his on screen ones, though!
I think we just all need to pray to Lord Xenu to kick his ass!
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Do you think the Greenhouse affect is man-made or a natural cycle?
by free2beme ini hear a lot about the greenhouse affect, in the news and in environmental movements.
i also studied this topic when i was in college and remember seeing a lot of information on how many of these weather changes that are attributed to the greenhouse affect, have repeated themselves many times throughout history and are expected to do so again.
so when i read these topics in the news and see how much greenpeace and other ultra enviro-terror groups ignore the other side of the story.
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Wild_Thing
The "greenhouse effect" is naturally occuring. We would actually die if we didn't have it. What it means is that the gases in our atmosphere trap some of the heat from the Sun and the rest escapes back into space. If this didn't happen, we would be warm during the day, and freeze to death at night because all of the heat would have escaped.
I do think humans have altered the greenhouse effect to function in a way that is not natural. Because we are unnaturally putting large amounts of gases into the atmosphere (like CO2), it in increasing the amount of heat that is being trapped. That is what is causing global warming, and it is definitely a man-made problem. Are there other natural factors that might contribute? Of course! But, it is us that is altering the ratio of gases in the atmosphere and causing most of the problem.
And that is your science lessong for today! :)
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Thw Watchtower Dream
by carlitos inin watching the recent protests in this country in regards to the issue of illegal/legal immigration, one gets to read the many stories of success from many of these immigrants that came over from south of the border.
keeping politics aside, one can't but be astounded by the will and desire that many of them have to "make it" here in the usa.
many of them have realized the "american dream".
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Wild_Thing
Watchtower is famous for doing this to everybody. They prey on the poor, the needy, the weak, and the mentally ill. In other words, they search out people who got a bum rap in life, and of course want more. They disguise their "kindness" by saying that they gave them hope. In reality, they are making them dependent on their religious corporation (I like that word), and actually taking away hope of them succeeding on their own in life. Sad.
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1975 Article: The Mental Health of Jehovah's Witnesses
by Wild_Thing intaken from http://bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/abstract/126/6/556
the british journal of psychiatry 126: 556-559 (1975).
1975 the royal college of psychiatrists the mental health of jehovah's witnesses
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Wild_Thing
Did you know that there is actually a 12-step group, like AA, called Fundamentalists Anonymous? How wild is that? Anybody ever heard of them?
FA Twelve Steps 1. I realize that I had turned control of my mind over to another person or group, who had assumed power over my thinking. 2. That person or group persuaded me of the inerrancy of the Bible, in spite of its many internal contradictions. 3. I became addicted to the Bible as the supreme focus of my faith, in spite of the commandment that God should come first. 4. I admit to God, to myself and to another person the shortcomings of my belief in the unbelievable. 5. I have made an inventory of my false claims about the Bible. 6. I have made a list of those whom I led into confusion about the Bible. 7. I am willing to make amends to all those whom I may have led astray. 8. I realize that I have the inner power to restore sanity to my life and to search Scripture for the truth. 9. I will reach out to friends who can help me clarify my thinking about the Bible, God and Jesus. 10. I confess that only with God's help can my mind grasp the truth. 11. I will seek through prayer and meditation to improve my conscious contact with God, praying for knowledge of God's will for me and the power to carry that out. 12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these twelve steps, I will offer these steps to other former biblical fundamentalists.
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1975 Article: The Mental Health of Jehovah's Witnesses
by Wild_Thing intaken from http://bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/abstract/126/6/556
the british journal of psychiatry 126: 556-559 (1975).
1975 the royal college of psychiatrists the mental health of jehovah's witnesses
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Wild_Thing
Taken from http://bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/abstract/126/6/556The British Journal of Psychiatry 126: 556-559 (1975)
© 1975 The Royal College of PsychiatristsThe mental health of Jehovah's Witnesses
J Spencer
The function of religion in human society is complex. The part played by religion in psychiatric disorders is even more obscure. Previous literature and theories are divided into two groups: one school believes that intense religiosity is a symptom-complex indicative of psychiatric disorder, while the opposing view is that religious belief in some way acts as a defence mechanism protecting the individual and his psyche. The present study of 50 Jehovah's Witnesses admitted to the Mental Health Service facilities of Western Australia suggests that members of this section of the community are more likely to be admitted to a psychiatric hospital than the general population. Furthermore, followers of the sect are three times more likely to be diagnosed as suffering from schizophrenia and nearly four times more likely from paranoid schizophrenia than the rest of the population at risk. These findings suggest that being a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses faith may be a risk factor predisposing to a schizophrenic illness. Further studies would be interesting in investigating whether pre-psychotic people are more likely to join the sect than normal people and what part (if any) membership has in bringing about such a breakdown.It begs the question ... what came first: the chicken or the egg?
Does anybody know of any other studies done on the topic of Jehovah's Witnesses and mental health? I bet it would be hard to find willing participants. Wild Thing
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Can you give me a list of religions/beliefs w/ main pros and cons?
by tsunami_rid3r ini'm looking for something to be a part of.
list religions with their main focuses, and the sucky part of them.
jehovah witness's: lots of studying; mandatory field service
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Wild_Thing
That would be kinda hard to do since pros and cons are different for everyone.
If you ask me, religion is all a big con anyway!
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Dubs vs. Scientology
by seahart inhas anyone noticed the little scuffel with the scientologist?
they seem to have had their feelings hurt in a cartoon.
funny that they are not being potrayed as having crazy beliefs, and why is it being down played in the news?
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Wild_Thing
...heheh, well...I actually meant the link the the ;SP ;episode, although the internet free speech link is cool too....
Oh .. heh ... oh well!!!!!! I'll let you make it a separate topic if you want to!
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New Generation of JW's?
by zeroday ini da'd myself two years and yet i have 3 jw cousins that continue to communicate with me.
either thru email or face to face.
when i ask them if they know the consequences of their actions they just reply "i don't care".
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Wild_Thing
I was not DF'd and never officially disassociated, but I made it very clear to my family that I am no longer a JW ... that was over 5 years ago. They didn't talk to me for a few months and I expected it to be forever, but they came around after a while and now we talk all the time, and I have my little JW neices and nephews over to visit all the time, too! They are very active, and my bro-in-law is an elder. It certainly is different than what would have been done when I was a kid. I saw people left and right completely cutting off family members and I still see it sometimes today. I don't understand the change, but I guess you shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth!