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  You know, I recently believed that Jesus was a cool guy....

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  after leaving the jdub world, for awhile it still seemed like the bible was still a holy book, something valuable, worthy, etc., and that the jw religion had just corrupted it and used it to their own ends.. i thought that jesus was like a bhudda, a guy going around taking about peace and love and who exposed the hypocrisy of the religious leaders.. .

  but he also said some hurtful things, harmful things, things like dividing up your family, things like whoever had more affection for their family than for him was not worthy of him, to not take time to bury your father but go preaching instead... to send out his followers without any food for the day but to rely on the kindness of others and believe that that kindness and charity expressed gods blessing and favour.... bah!.

  i now believe jesus was just another man, saying both good things and stupid things.

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  Wild_Thing

  The canonization was a political process.

  Exactly! And would you trust today's U.S. Congress to decide which books belong in the bible and which books do not? Because that is exactly what happened in the time of Constantine. Our view of Jesus today is the view that Constantine and his chosen bishops wanted us to have. There were many other gospels about Jesus that may have given us a bigger picture of what kind of MAN he really was. Those are now lost to the ages, all because he wanted the controversy to stop.

  This forum is short on the arts and humanities.

  I don't this forum ever claimed to be about the arts and humanities. And if you don't involve science, and math, and history when looking at the bible, all you will have is blind faith.
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  You know, I recently believed that Jesus was a cool guy....

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  after leaving the jdub world, for awhile it still seemed like the bible was still a holy book, something valuable, worthy, etc., and that the jw religion had just corrupted it and used it to their own ends.. i thought that jesus was like a bhudda, a guy going around taking about peace and love and who exposed the hypocrisy of the religious leaders.. .

  but he also said some hurtful things, harmful things, things like dividing up your family, things like whoever had more affection for their family than for him was not worthy of him, to not take time to bury your father but go preaching instead... to send out his followers without any food for the day but to rely on the kindness of others and believe that that kindness and charity expressed gods blessing and favour.... bah!.

  i now believe jesus was just another man, saying both good things and stupid things.

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  Wild_Thing

  The truth is ... we have no idea what Jesus said or didn't say. It is a story written long after he may or may not have existed.

  I personally believe that someone named Jesus probably did exist. I also think he was simply a human, like you and me, except a bit crazier and narcissitic. I think the story of Jesus today is nothing more than a tall tale. An exaggeration. Like Paul Bunyan, or Johnny Appleseed.
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  WTS changed name in Poland

  by Haelcer in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  according yearbook - 1994 official name wts in poland was:.

  *** yb94 p. 247 poland ***.

  imagine their joy when, 40 years later, on may 12, 1989, the director of the office for religious affairs approved the charter of the straznicatowarzystwo biblijne i traktatowe, zarejestrowany zwiazek wyznania swiadkow jehowy w polsce (watchtower bible and tract society, registered religious association of jehovahs witnesses in poland)!

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  Wild_Thing

  their actions on judical commitee are "sacrament of confession"

  That is new.

  I'm sorry. How is this new?
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  A comment to make witnesses ears prick up and think.

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so the next time you are in a group of witnesses and discussion about a sad event where people died occurs (such as a car accident, natural disaster etc), just casually say:.

  " oh well, that's a few less people jehovah has to kill at armageddon.....so don't be upset!...at least they now get a resurrection".

  that will make witnesses think!.

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  Wild_Thing

  Wait a minute ... when I was growing up, the only ones they said would be ressurected, were the ones who had not been witnessed to yet. I was always taught that when we went out "witnessing from door to door", it was to "separate the sheep from the goats" and of course, the goats would be destroyed. Has this changed?

  Seriously, they talked about worldly people being destroyed A LOT!
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  A comment to make witnesses ears prick up and think.

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so the next time you are in a group of witnesses and discussion about a sad event where people died occurs (such as a car accident, natural disaster etc), just casually say:.

  " oh well, that's a few less people jehovah has to kill at armageddon.....so don't be upset!...at least they now get a resurrection".

  that will make witnesses think!.

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  Wild_Thing

  I have heard witnesses joke about not wanting to stand next to somebody who was going to be destroyed at Armageddon because they might splatter. The organization has been ... for a very long time ... ingraining in their members sweet dreams of mass annihilation and birds pecking out the eyes of the evil, and Jehovah's people having the privilege of cleaning up their dead bodies.

  They have become desensitized to how wrong their fantasies are.
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  A comment to make witnesses ears prick up and think.

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so the next time you are in a group of witnesses and discussion about a sad event where people died occurs (such as a car accident, natural disaster etc), just casually say:.

  " oh well, that's a few less people jehovah has to kill at armageddon.....so don't be upset!...at least they now get a resurrection".

  that will make witnesses think!.

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  Wild_Thing

  No, I don't think it will. You are giving them far too much credit to think they will "think".
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  Most Damning Publication?

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  of all of the watchtower's many publications dating now to all the way back to russell, which one publication is the most damning in showing they are a complete crachpot of a religion?

  and i course, i mean which original publication before they changed a few words and reprinted!.

  personally, i think it is probably russell's the divine plan of the ages.

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  Wild_Thing

  @speargrass55 Jwfacts.com has a pretty interesting article on beards. Apparently, Rutherford felt that many of the brothers were growing beards in imitation of Russell, so after he died, he squashed it.
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  Rare recorded MARKING TALK on APOSTASY

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we have a version with our commentary: http://youtu.be/yn17rj_pyd4.

  we also have an un-cut, un-edited version of the audio: http://youtu.be/pihfucr38sw.

  asl version: http://youtu.be/dd635pqpdle.

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  Marking. Waiting for the transcript. I can't stomach listening to it.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses family struck by lightning in Germany

  by raymond frantz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  http://jwdoctrine.com/family-jehovahs-witnesses-struck-lightning-germany/.

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  Wild_Thing

  This is a sad story and I hope the child is okay. But .... the irony cannot escape me. When I was a kid, we had a family friend, and when we encountered someone she considered especially worthy of Jehovah's destruction, she would say, "I don't want to be standing beside him when Jehovah strikes him down! It's not that I'm afraid Jehovah will miss, I'm afraid of splatter." I thought it was funny at the time. Now I just shake my head.

  I wonder how many JWs have fantasies about Jehovah striking people down at Armageddon?
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  Most Damning Publication?

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  of all of the watchtower's many publications dating now to all the way back to russell, which one publication is the most damning in showing they are a complete crachpot of a religion?

  and i course, i mean which original publication before they changed a few words and reprinted!.

  personally, i think it is probably russell's the divine plan of the ages.

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  Wild_Thing

  I have thought about spending loads of money on antiquitated Watchtower books and giving them as a gift to my mom. But in my heart, I know that (a) it wouldn't make a difference, and (b) she would be too scared to look at them just because I was the one who gave them to her.