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My logic and emotions are in a turmoil. Need specific help please

by stuckinarut2 in

i am still in, and as my name says "stuckinarut"...now i know it is not the truth, i know it for a fact...but im so messed up with a wash of hundreds of thoughts that i cant seem to get my head in order.. i thought i had my head clear and my 'sh1t together' so to speak....but ..... im sure you know what i mean?

when there are so many reasons and facts proving ttatt, but if asked to make a list in bullet points now, i would get so overwhelmed....i just dont know where to start.

i feel like i would be like a balloon let go flying around the room in all directions trying to 'spew' out the facts!.

Wild_Thing

You could also start an online blog. They can be anonymous and they are a great way to organize your thoughts, evidence from websites, files, etc. And then they are in an easy place to go back and look at them.

On a side note ... it helped me to also make a list of non-doctinal issues that are part of the Witnesses. More sociological issues (and some doctrinal issues overlap to sociological issues.) Shunning, education, lack of tolerance for outside research, intolerance of researching their own religion's past, hypocrisy, judgmentalism, degradation of women, condemning all others not part of their group ... those things bothered me more than any doctrine.

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Pointless Speculation

by konceptual99 in

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friends

i've noted a few people aluding to a rumour that there will be a "big announcement"(tm) that will "shock some"(tm) later this year, probably around agm time.. in the interests of pointless speculation, what might this be?

i am sure we can all think of some outlandish possibilities but i am interested in what could have some possibility of actually happening.. for example,.

- sisters able to do some aspects of ms roles.. - regional conventions (nee.

Wild_Thing

I think the BIG SHOCKING ANNOUNCEMENT will be ...

"We will have a special campaign during the month of January! Our literature offer will be the latest new release for the young ones in our communities featuring the two Mexican children in our cartoons! This truly is a HISTORIC EVENT! What will YOU do to make sure you can pioneer and take part in this EXTRAORDINARY opportunty to serve Jerkovah more?"

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How important do you believe education and knowledge is?

by new hope and happiness in

how educated are you?

and how great is your vocabularly ect ....?.

do you think ir right to judge people by how intelligent/ educated they are and how much vocabulary they use???.

Wild_Thing

Intellience comes in many forms. Being "book smart" is only one kind of intelligence. I can probably beat you at any word game, but if we go head to head explaining the inner workings of my car, I will most definitely lose. (What makes the engine run? I turn it on and step on the gas!)

"If you judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree, it will spend its whole life believing it is stupid." - Albert Einstein

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What words has the WT redefined?

by Splash in

these days, virtually every public talk speaker thinks it's interesting and intellectual to include a dictionary definition of some word.

often the word is in common use and needs no explanation, such as 'exercise', or 'knowledge', or whatever.. now contrast that to all of the words that the wt has it's own meaning for, and referencing a dictionary for the common understanding of it would be viewed unfavourably.. words like 'generation' or 'men' (as in jesus is mediator between god and 'men' - 1tim 2:5-6).. what words have the wt redefined that you know about?

- i'd like to compile a list if possible.. splash.

Wild_Thing

Clearly, the most prominent word they use that they have redefined is "Truth".

A close second is "Evidently".

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Question About the Governing Body

by Wild_Thing in

does anyone know if any of the current governing body members became a jw as an adult, or were all of them raised and bred a jw from childhood?.

i have a theory that the jws that are "born in" and stay in tend to be more extreme and less reasonable because that is all they have ever known, especially if they are sheltered and groomed to be a good little jw.. and i was just looking at what i could find about the newest and youngest member, mark sanderson.

he was born on february 4, 1965, and he was baptized on february 9, 1975 ... a few days shy of turning 10 years old!

Wild_Thing

Wow. Just wow. Well, that blows my theory out of the water!

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Apostate District Convention - 100 Years of Lies

by jw07 in

just a bit of humour.. are you attending the 100 years of lies district convention?

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keynote speakers include jw survey, marc & cora, john cedars, mike and kim, apostate chick, ex jw international, propagandatechniques, danmera, anon dude, and everyone on jehovah's witness .net!.

Wild_Thing

I will start working in my banner ... "SEE YOU AT THE BAR!"

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If the new Governing body Saunderson was baptised in 1975 - you could be anointed too

by bruh2012 in

someone mention on another thread about the newest- youngest governing body member- if he is anointed being baptised around 1975 why wouldnt anyone else baptised around that time be anointed too!.

right ???

or since the call to be anointed ended in 1935 teaching became no more with new light - is it random choosing now??

Wild_Thing

I don't know the answer to your question, but I am more disturbed by the fact that he was baptized a few days after his 10th birthday.

I mean ... did he claim at 10 to be of the anointed? Exactly when did he decide? How long before he became a member of the governing body did he decide he was anointed? 2 weeks before? 2 years? 20 years before? It would be interesting to know.

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Question About the Governing Body

by Wild_Thing in

does anyone know if any of the current governing body members became a jw as an adult, or were all of them raised and bred a jw from childhood?.

i have a theory that the jws that are "born in" and stay in tend to be more extreme and less reasonable because that is all they have ever known, especially if they are sheltered and groomed to be a good little jw.. and i was just looking at what i could find about the newest and youngest member, mark sanderson.

he was born on february 4, 1965, and he was baptized on february 9, 1975 ... a few days shy of turning 10 years old!

Wild_Thing

Yes, I would like a detailed background one each member of the GB. The rank and file deserve to know.

So at least two of members converted ... Morris and Loesch. Do the two of them seem less extreme than the rest? More reasonable?

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Question About the Governing Body

by Wild_Thing in

does anyone know if any of the current governing body members became a jw as an adult, or were all of them raised and bred a jw from childhood?.

i have a theory that the jws that are "born in" and stay in tend to be more extreme and less reasonable because that is all they have ever known, especially if they are sheltered and groomed to be a good little jw.. and i was just looking at what i could find about the newest and youngest member, mark sanderson.

he was born on february 4, 1965, and he was baptized on february 9, 1975 ... a few days shy of turning 10 years old!

Wild_Thing

Does anyone know if any of the current Governing Body members became a JW as an adult, or were all of them raised and bred a JW from childhood?

I have a theory that the JWs that are "born in" and stay in tend to be more extreme and less reasonable because that is all they have ever known, especially if they are sheltered and groomed to be a good little JW.

And I was just looking at what I could find about the newest and youngest member, Mark Sanderson. He was born on February 4, 1965, and he was baptized on February 9, 1975 ... a few days shy of turning 10 years old! It sounds like he was groomed from an early age to be a fanatic.

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Donation of blood fractions

by why144000 in

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friends

this may be the wrong area for this but here goes.. if you went to a bank and told them " i don't have an account with you, i never will have an account with you and i will tell people you are a terrible bank" then ask not for a loan from them, but a gift of a lot of money, how do you think they would respond?.

yet, witnesses now have the the ability to take blood fractions from the blood bank without ever contributing to the blood bank.

there is a process that the blood bank takes just the plasma from a donor to be used for fractions only.

Wild_Thing

The JW that gave the talk on fractions is my old local area didn't know fractions came from blood donations but assumed they were 'made in a lab'.

Haha! He was probably home-schooled. (My go-to line for any ignorant comment a JW makes.)

But seriously, this topic ranks up with the topic of education in that it makes me so steaming mad! I had a pretty heated conversation about this with my mother one time. I told her how incredibly hypocrital it is for Witnesses to permit blood fractions and medicines that are made from blood fractions,but they do not allow their members to donate. She didn't even know you could donate just plasma. Long story short ... I won the argument, but it didn't change her viewpoint on it. She just never brings it up anymore.

As an FYI to anyone to wants to share with their Witness families: http://www.redcrossblood.org/donating-blood/types-donations/plasma-donation

Wild_Thing

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