I absolutely disagree with Russia banning the JWs and confiscating their property (I believe the undesirable behavior should be banned, NOT the religion), yet this brings me a feeling of joy at the same time. It's so confusing.
Wild_Thing
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St Petersburg Assembly Hall to be given to Russian scientists
by OrphanCrow inhttps://realty.newsru.com/article/26dec2017/iegov_med.
(the following article is translated using google translate).
the building selected in "jehovah's witnesses" in st. petersburg will be given to scientistsdecember 26, 2017 publication time: 09:42. in a building selected from a banned organization in russia, "jehovah's witnesses", will soon be able to read scientific lectures.
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2017 Service Year Report Worldwide - INDIVIDUALLY LISTED LANDS and COUNTRIES
by darkspilver innow available:.
2017 service year report worldwide: table with individually listed lands and countries.
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Wild_Thing
Wowee wow wow ... the U.S. lost 462 congregations, but gained 600 publishers? How is that possible?
If these numbers added up, wouldn't we hear about meeting attendance being higher, or congregations being larger?
Looks like fuzzy math to me. I have no faith in their self reported statistics.
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Hi, all...I'm a faithful JW who is sick of lies about us
by James Donalds ini was baptized 30 years ago and have been in the faith for over 35 years.. our organization isn't perfect.
but i'm sick to death of seeing stereotypes about us.
we are not mindless automatons.
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Wild_Thing
Pics are it didn't happen.
Post a picture of yourself dressed in your cap and gown, holding your Masters degree and smoking a cigar while wearing your "I Voted" sticker, and I MIGHT believe you.
But probably not.
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Inactive/Inactive Publishers ... Are they all counted?
by Wild_Thing inforgive me if this specific question has been asked and answered.. the jw worldwide report includes their number of publishers, but it doesn't make a distinction between inactive, irregular, or active.
do they include everyone?
in other words, the "faders" that don't dissociate ... are they forever counted in their yearly publisher report because they are technically just an "inactive publisher"?.
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Thanks darkspilver. Very interesting.
I have a lot of trouble trusting the society's own statistics. From reading about their data collection methods in your second link, it sounds like they need to start sending their bethelites to college to study statistics and math, right along those lawyers they're churning out.
Stay in school, kids ... stay in school.
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Inactive/Inactive Publishers ... Are they all counted?
by Wild_Thing inforgive me if this specific question has been asked and answered.. the jw worldwide report includes their number of publishers, but it doesn't make a distinction between inactive, irregular, or active.
do they include everyone?
in other words, the "faders" that don't dissociate ... are they forever counted in their yearly publisher report because they are technically just an "inactive publisher"?.
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Thanks, No Apologies. Is there a Watchtower document you can point to that says that? On their reports, it just says "publishers".
Thanks for your help.
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Inactive/Inactive Publishers ... Are they all counted?
by Wild_Thing inforgive me if this specific question has been asked and answered.. the jw worldwide report includes their number of publishers, but it doesn't make a distinction between inactive, irregular, or active.
do they include everyone?
in other words, the "faders" that don't dissociate ... are they forever counted in their yearly publisher report because they are technically just an "inactive publisher"?.
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Forgive me if this specific question has been asked and answered.
The JW worldwide report includes their number of publishers, but it doesn't make a distinction between inactive, irregular, or active. Do they include everyone?
In other words, the "faders" that don't dissociate ... are they forever counted in their yearly publisher report because they are technically just an "inactive publisher"?
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Crisis of conscience
by Jrjw inhi everyone.
what does anyone think of the crisis of conscience book?
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Wild_Thing
In my opinion, a lot of it was very dry and difficult to get through. but totally worth the struggle. I had to put it down and come back to it several times. I first read it as I was in the process of leaving.
I have thought about reading it again. I am guessing I will get something totally different out of it now that I am older and have been gone for so many years.
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Does a jw have to miss counting time for 6 months to be inactive
by blondie inhow many months consecutively does a jw have to miss turning in time to be inactive?.
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Wild_Thing
I agree with what others have said. This is what I remember from growing up as an elder's kid.
No time turned in for 1-5 months: irregular
No time turned in for 6 or more months: inactive
They do not officially keep track of whether you attend the meetings or not. Technically, you could not ever attend a meeting and still turn in time every month and still be counted as an active publisher, although I have never heard of anyone getting away with that.
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What Made You Decide To Finally Leave The Organization?
by minimus inwas there one certain event or was it more a cumulative thing?.
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Wild_Thing
When I was 16, my mother and I finally escaped from my abusive father, who had been an elder for years. She sought help from the elders for years. The only help they provided was telling her what a good little JW wifey she was for keeping secret and not "bringing reproach upon Jehovah's name", and to pray more. It took her 29 years to get away from him.
When we got away from him, we started over in a new town. Initially, we had nothing, except a suitcase of clothes. No job, no car, no place to live. Eventually, things started to fall in place (without the assistance of our "brothers and sisters") and we were able to go back and get only some of our stuff that we had left behind.
After it was all said and done, I told my mother that I didn't want to be a Witness anymore. I just couldn't imagine living forever with these people who wouldn't help us. Her response was "I know. I feel that way too sometimes, but there's nothing else out there." I attempted suicide shortly afterwards. It took another seven for me to be able to stop going to meetings and attempt a fade, but this is what precipitated my decision to leave. I would rather be dead than with the Witnesses, so how bad could the world be?
The final straw where I said I absolutely will not step foot in a Kingdom Hall again? It was a drama at the summer convention. My mom convinced me to go on that one day because she knew when I was growing up, the dramas were always my favorite part of an otherwise boring 4 days. (Showing my age).
The drama was about Moses and Korah, and how Korah would not listen to Moses when he came down from the mountain serving as God's mouthpiece. Korah wouldn't accept Moses's authority so the earth opened up and swallowed him. They very clearly lined out the correlation to today. Moses represented the organization/ F&DS. Korah represented any JW that questioned their authority.
I was in my early 20s, and was incensed at the very blatant fear tactics they were using. It was the last JW ANYTHING I went to. That is not why I left, but it was the straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak. It made me realize I was old enough and strong enough to walk away, and the only thing keeping me in the Borg was my own two feet.
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Improve Search Feature?
by Wild_Thing inmerry christmas, simon!.
any chance that the search feature of this forum could be improved?
i would like to be able to search by date range, or at least be able to reorder the results in order of newest to oldest.. thanks,.
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Wild_Thing
Merry Christmas, Simon!
Any chance that the search feature of this forum could be improved? I would like to be able to search by date range, or at least be able to reorder the results in order of newest to oldest.
Thanks,
Wild_Thing