Wild_Thing

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  Are the Elders harder on Women

  by Steel in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was having a discussion with an old friend last night.

  her parents are divorced and his mother never became “one of jehovah witnesses “ .

  long story short she claims elders are generally hardier on women than men.

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  Yes ... they're still holding a grudge against us for eating an apple.
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  Convention

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  gorby is as you know a long time fader.. visited the convention this weekend.. and concluded that samuel herds talk about hope was not so bad at all, it was well balanced.

  made some good points.. knowing both sides of the medallion, have to admit he was humble with a focus on hope.. the saturday drama impressed me.

  of course, there is a lot to say about the organization, this professional produced movie in a "true story" scenario, gave me the insight that hope is important for suffering people.

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  One person's "hope" is another person's fear.
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  I got my Bethel Application approved, I start in September

  by Quarterback in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well it took awhile.

  i've downsized.

  got rid of my bmw.

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  But ... wwwhhhhyyyy?
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  How to argue with a JW who says the org never said the end in 75

  by dogon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.

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  My advice for anyone planning to argue with JWs about 1975 ...

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  Updates and fixes

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  i thought i'd spend some time cleaning up the forum code and wanted to let you know about some of the recent changes and fixes:.

  the avatars and in-post images used to use a separate imaging service which was convenient but didn't provide much control over caching which meant that each day you visited the site you were probably re-downloading those images again.

  as they are immutable they can be cached for a long time which saves bandwidth and speeds things up.

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  Wild_Thing

  Thanks for all of your hard work, Simon.

  My wish is for some kind of notification system to tell me when there are any new comments to threads where I have posted.
  
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  Feel like starting a New Ministry! True Bible Students

  by SonoftheTrinity in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think studying the king james bible, and the jacobean flavored translations of the apocrypha and pseudipigrapha, whether you believe in them or not, is an essential part of being a culturally rooted english speaker.

  i used to belong to an organization that advocated reading a chapter a day, but had no actual faith requirement to be a member.

  20c a week and read the kjv a chapter a day, no lifestyle requirement, no doctrinal litmus test.

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  Please don't.
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  New Monthly Broadcast - BE LOYAL! - Shut Up and Sit Down!

  by ttdtt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the new broadcast is - predictably - about being loyal to the gb.it's a shut up and sit down message.. one of the funny things they keep bringing up is the correlation between the gb and moses.those who don't listen to the gb are like korah.. this is a false choice, why?let's look at a quick comparison.

  (this is from the point of view of the bible).

  was moses directly picked by god?- yeswas the gb directly picked by god?- well no, we actually are not told how the gb are picked and why the qualify.. did god talk to moses?- yesdoes god talk to the gb- no, they admit they are not in direct communication.. did god inspire moses to write laws and judge.- yesdoes god inspire the gb to write laws and judge.- no, they admit they are not inspired, and they are always wrong and need to change things all the time.. did god give the israelites undisputable proof that moses is his channel?- yes, many miracles visible to everyone one around happenddoes god give jws undisputable proof that the gb are his channel?- no, there is no proof, actually contrary.. was moses ever wrong?- nohas the gb ever been wrong?- every time.

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  I wish someone would make a reel of the highlights. I don't think I can stomach sitting through the whole thing.
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  Russellites ----> Bible Students ----> Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in my experience, the jws always seemed to shy away from much association from the term "russellites".

  most are wiling to accept that bible students took on the name jehovah's witnesses, but they seem to disavow much association with the term "russellites".. is this perception true?

  does anyone know if there is anything in their literature after 1931 where they admit they are the same group as the russellites?

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  Interesting. Thanks for your help, guys! Blondie, I can always count on you for a historical perspective!

  I thought they referred to themselves as Russellites when Russell first started the movement. I have read in old newspapers where they refer to them as Russelites. I just assumed that was what they called themselves. I didn't realize they were always called Bible Students.
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  Strange JW obituary, a Marshalltown acquaintance from years ago

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm pasting her obituary below following a google search for her children's names.

  i was actually wondering whether she was still in the cult.

  according to the obit, she was when she passed some 3 years ago but i suspect she was still a fringe jw as i remember her in the 50's.. janet keeler, as i knew her and her husband buck, attended the marshalltown, iowa congregation when she was in her late 20's.

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  Wild_Thing

  My bad, neat blue dog! But I guess the same can be said for that, too. We will all be a "Was" someday! :)
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  Russellites ----> Bible Students ----> Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in my experience, the jws always seemed to shy away from much association from the term "russellites".

  most are wiling to accept that bible students took on the name jehovah's witnesses, but they seem to disavow much association with the term "russellites".. is this perception true?

  does anyone know if there is anything in their literature after 1931 where they admit they are the same group as the russellites?

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  Wild_Thing

  Bible Students pre-1931 organizationally always stayed away from the term "Russellites" viewing it as prejorative. My grandparents were members of the WTS pre-1931 and said they always referred to themselves as Bible Students, not followers of a man like Lutherans.

  So even though they didn't like that term used for themselves, did they admit that there was a connection? That at some point their group of people were one and the same?

  If so, I'm wondering when it went from "we don't like to use that term for ourselves" to "Russellites who?"