Wild_Thing

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  Bitter sweet moment

  by Jayk in

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  last night i had a sit down with a family member and some older friends who went to my hall.

  didn't realise my family member who is active has been feeling alot of the same emotions i have.

  my family member who is in high standing said he has alway been afraid to go to the elders because he has always felt they weren't ever understanding from his experience.

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  Wild_Thing

  A college education will do it every time. If you don't start questioning things on your own, you will after going to college ... where questioning is encouraged and the proof of any "truth" matters. Quite the opposite of how we were raised.
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  Watchtower Philosophy Debates

  by Wild_Thing in

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  i was wondering how many of you still enjoy (or maybe you just feel the need) to discuss and debate jw doctrine and scripture.

  i find myself scrolling right past those topics i see online.

  i could care less.

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  scratchme1010 -- I agree. I think maybe some of it has to do with where people are in the process of leaving the JWs. I just almost don't have the patience to listen to the nonsense anymore. I guess that's a good thing and means I've moved on. I don't begrudge anyone who needs to still discuss it, I just can't go there anymore.

  waton -- You've sort of proven my point. My eyes glazed over when I got to the word "anointed". :P
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  Watchtower Philosophy Debates

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering how many of you still enjoy (or maybe you just feel the need) to discuss and debate jw doctrine and scripture.

  i find myself scrolling right past those topics i see online.

  i could care less.

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  Wild_Thing

  I was wondering how many of you still enjoy (or maybe you just feel the need) to discuss and debate JW doctrine and scripture. I find myself scrolling right past those topics I see online. I could care less. I feel like that is a debate no one is going to win, and I have often wondered if the ones who want to argue the points are people who have found another religion that "really is the right one this time", or maybe they are still trying to prove to themselves it is the Truth™. I really don't know.

  I still find myself wanting (and needing) to discuss the sociological issues within the organization. Shunning, the banning of higher education, their gross mishandling of abuse within the congregations, their isolationist attitudes, etc.

  I'm pretty much past the need to discuss anything that the Bible says or who the Watchtower thinks the King of the North is this time.

  What about you?
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  He killed them because they expelled him from the Jehovah's Witnesses - Canal de Noticia (Venezuela), Nov 28, 2017 - Two JWs found murdered

  by darkspilver in

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  2. friends

  this tragic story has been developing over the last couple of days in venezuela.

  there is a mixture of reports and accounts coming in..... two jehovah's witnesses (and fleshly sisters) aged 71 and 65, where found murdered.

  a 26 year male suspect has been arrested.. in the apartment where the two where found dead, the words "death to witnesses" (“muerte a los testigos”) had been scrawled onto one of the walls.. he killed them because they expelled him from the jehovah's witnesses - canal de noticia, nov 28, 2017. .

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  I hate hearing stories like this. Not only is it a tragedy for the families of the deceased, it also reinforces the JW belief that they are persecuted for being "the only true religion"™.

  The first article I read made it sound like the sisters expelled him. Hopefully, something is just lost in the translation. I know that can't be accurate, unless the ladies accused him of something that he got disfellowshipped for.
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  Watchtower Organizational Structure

  by Wild_Thing in

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  2. friends

  does anyone know of any diagrams online that show the current hierarchical structure of the watchtower compared to the previous hierarchical structures of the past.

  i know they have complicated it on purpose to try to protect themselves legally from lawsuits.

  i would like to try to understand their current structure compared with the past.

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  Thank you for the link slimboyfat. That is very useful. And that pic you described is hilarious!

  I would like to know more about their structure(s) that they have set up legally. I would like to read more about how they have set up separate legal entities to protect themselves from lawsuits.
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  Watchtower Organizational Structure

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone know of any diagrams online that show the current hierarchical structure of the watchtower compared to the previous hierarchical structures of the past.

  i know they have complicated it on purpose to try to protect themselves legally from lawsuits.

  i would like to try to understand their current structure compared with the past.

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  Wild_Thing

  It wasn't exactly what I was looking for, but it is pretty accurate. Haha!

  If anyone knows of anything a little bit more useful, please send it my way. Every once in a while, there is something like this topic that I get interested in researching. The ever-changing structure of the Watchtower Society since its inception is a topic of interest to me lately.
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  Watchtower Organizational Structure

  by Wild_Thing in

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  does anyone know of any diagrams online that show the current hierarchical structure of the watchtower compared to the previous hierarchical structures of the past.

  i know they have complicated it on purpose to try to protect themselves legally from lawsuits.

  i would like to try to understand their current structure compared with the past.

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  Wild_Thing

  There was one here of the interior of a bird cage.

  Was this one you were thinking of? :)
  
  

  
  
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  Watchtower Organizational Structure

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone know of any diagrams online that show the current hierarchical structure of the watchtower compared to the previous hierarchical structures of the past.

  i know they have complicated it on purpose to try to protect themselves legally from lawsuits.

  i would like to try to understand their current structure compared with the past.

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  Wild_Thing

  Does anyone know of any diagrams online that show the CURRENT hierarchical structure of the Watchtower compared to the previous hierarchical structures of the past. I know they have complicated it on purpose to try to protect themselves legally from lawsuits. I would like to try to understand their current structure compared with the past. Thanks

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  Is it just me

  by Jayk in

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  or is thanksgiving a massive animal sacrifice ritual?.

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  Wild_Thing

  Most celebrations are. Christmas, Easter, Boxing Day. It's hard to think of a holiday that isn't surrounded by a lot of meat. Thanksgiving is no different.
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  How do JWs pronounce COBE?

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just wondering.

  when i was a witness, we had presiding overseer, and would say p-o for short.

  do they spell it out when they say cobe or do they say it with as a word?

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  Wild_Thing

  So at one time, the head of the congregation was called the Congregation Servant. Abbreviated how? C.S.?

  Next, he was called the Presiding Overseer. Abbreviated PO.

  Now, the position is called Coordinator of Body of Elders (which seems to me it should be abbreviated either COBOE or CBE. Why ignore one "of" but not the other?)

  What were they called before the title of Congregation Servant?