I have someone close to me that does that. We all, as humans, tend to be a bit egocentric. But yes, some take it to an all new level. I had to make a hard decision. Is it deal breaker in our relationship? Or is it something I was just going to have to accept and understand the limits of our relationship. I chose the latter. It makes me sad sometimes, but I had to come to realize that that person is not someone who I can share things with and expect her to listen. I have to have other people in my life for that. It's sad, but it's my reality.
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How do you deal with "toppers"? [one upmanship]
by compound complex inwhen in conversion, you sometimes get carried away and the talk becomes all about you.. then, you remember you're in a conversation, say you're sorry, and allow the other person to talk.
she goes on about what's happening in her life, you listen and ask some questions.
she tells you more and then shifts the dialogue back to you.
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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I just can't get past the teaser video I watched! I can't stop giggling at what made them decide these videos are necessary. Was the laundry department getting just loads of crusty socks (or pillowcases) or what??? LOL
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New Member Of The Governing Body 24 Jan 2018
by pale.emperor injust seen this announced on reddit:.
ken cook was announced today at morning worship as the new member of the governing body.
i dont recall him from the broadcasts, but he was formally a helper on the writing committee as per https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/governing-body/.
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ARC Information pack received in relation to my help, assistance, evidence and testimony
by jwleaks inthis was sent to me by the arc for assisting and providing evidence and testimony in relation to jehovah's witnesses, the watchtower bible & tract society of australia, terrence o'brien, vincent toole, and geoffrey jackson of the governing body.. photo 1. a thank you letter, final report, summary brochures of the entire arc, every single case study and related document on a usb memory stick.. photo 2. close up of official arc usb memory stick with every single case study every single report and all the documents used.. photo 3. this arrived last year.
case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses.
i sent this official hardcopy to barbara anderson as a gift for all her hard work.. .
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I found the PDFs of the brochures.
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ARC Information pack received in relation to my help, assistance, evidence and testimony
by jwleaks inthis was sent to me by the arc for assisting and providing evidence and testimony in relation to jehovah's witnesses, the watchtower bible & tract society of australia, terrence o'brien, vincent toole, and geoffrey jackson of the governing body.. photo 1. a thank you letter, final report, summary brochures of the entire arc, every single case study and related document on a usb memory stick.. photo 2. close up of official arc usb memory stick with every single case study every single report and all the documents used.. photo 3. this arrived last year.
case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses.
i sent this official hardcopy to barbara anderson as a gift for all her hard work.. .
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Thanks jwleaks. I just sent off an email to the copyright@ email to inquire about reprinting. I'll let you know what I hear. After I sent it, I got an automatic reply that directed me to a different email. So, I sent it again. Here is the automatic reply with updated contact information if anyone is interested:
Thank you for your email to the Attorney‑General's Department Copyright inbox.
Please note: under a revised Administrative Arrangements Order issued on Monday 21 September 2015, the function and resources allocated to the Attorney-General’s Department’s Copyright Law Section moved to the Department of Communications and the Arts.
You can contact the Copyright Law Section at [email protected]
Enquiries seeking legal advice
the AGD Copyright team is not able to provide legal advice. You can find out more about copyright protection generally by visiting the “Find an Answer” section of the Australian Copyright Council’s website. The Australian Copyright Council is an independent non-government and not-for-profit organisation. It represents the interests of many copyright owners.
Enquiries about using Australian Government copyright material
The Copyright Law Section no longer issues licences on behalf of all government agencies. Enquiries about using material belonging to another agency should be directed to that agency. You can find agencies details through the Departments and Agencies Directory at Australia.gov.au. If your query relates to The Attorney-General's Department’s material, we will respond to your request in due course.
Enquiries about Commonwealth agreements with collecting societies
If your enquiry relates to the Commonwealth copyright agreements, please contact Copyright Law Section at the Department of Communications and the Arts at [email protected]
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ARC Information pack received in relation to my help, assistance, evidence and testimony
by jwleaks inthis was sent to me by the arc for assisting and providing evidence and testimony in relation to jehovah's witnesses, the watchtower bible & tract society of australia, terrence o'brien, vincent toole, and geoffrey jackson of the governing body.. photo 1. a thank you letter, final report, summary brochures of the entire arc, every single case study and related document on a usb memory stick.. photo 2. close up of official arc usb memory stick with every single case study every single report and all the documents used.. photo 3. this arrived last year.
case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses.
i sent this official hardcopy to barbara anderson as a gift for all her hard work.. .
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Thanks, jwleaks. I was thinking they were a summary of their findings. Not what I thought. It would really be nice if they (or someone) could summarize their findings in a nicely formatted brochure. I bet my brochure placement this month would be off the charts.
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I've Disassociated. It's getting announced tomorrow.
by Heathen Dan inthis is my first post to this site, im pale.emperor's brother:).
first of all, i've left being a jw in june.
since then my family have tried to convince me it's "the truth" and force me to go back even though it's my own decision.
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Welcome, Dan! Congrats to your new found freedom. Don't let their hateful words get to you. I think most of us have all experienced the same thing from our family. I have also been labeled disgusting, bitter, angry, crazy, and I am sure a host of other labels they come up with. Let their words just roll off your back. The world is full of great people. And now that you've left the Witnesses, you can find them!
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Have you met anyone on the Governing Body?
by Christ Alone ini posted on another thread about a couple of my experiences of meeting the governing body while i was in brooklyn.
i wanted to see if anyone else had any experiences along these same lines.
i met most of the ones that were current during the 2001-2003 years.
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Wow.
MC RubberMallet, could you help me out with my lottery numbers?
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ARC Information pack received in relation to my help, assistance, evidence and testimony
by jwleaks inthis was sent to me by the arc for assisting and providing evidence and testimony in relation to jehovah's witnesses, the watchtower bible & tract society of australia, terrence o'brien, vincent toole, and geoffrey jackson of the governing body.. photo 1. a thank you letter, final report, summary brochures of the entire arc, every single case study and related document on a usb memory stick.. photo 2. close up of official arc usb memory stick with every single case study every single report and all the documents used.. photo 3. this arrived last year.
case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses.
i sent this official hardcopy to barbara anderson as a gift for all her hard work.. .
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I haven't received a response back, but I wanted to make sure everyone knew what documents are available to download for free through the Royal Commission website. I am only listing the documents pictured by jwleaks, plus a few others I think are significant. If you want to browse the entire list of documents available for download, here is the link. It's a lot of information. The "Exhibit" documents are quite interesting. Narrow your search to just exhibits and do a search for "Case Study 29" (use quotation marks). https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/document-library
Final Report PDF: https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/final_report_-_preface_and_executive_summary.pdf
Case Study 29 PDF: https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/file-list/Case%20Study%2029%20-%20Findings%20Report%20-%20Jehovahs%20Witnesses.pdf
Other documents I think might be of high interest:
Supplemental statement by Geoffrey William Jackson provided to the Royal Commission after his testimony: https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/STAT.0670.001.0001.pdf
Spreadsheet documenting every single pedophile that the Watchtower had in their files and kept secret. No names. Each one is labeled by perpetrator number and lists A LOT of information like the number of victims, the status of the perpetrator in the congregation, whether there was a confession, and if they were disfellowshipped. This is the first time I have seen this document. I am absolutely horrified. https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/WAT.0021.001.0001.pdf
I am thinking I might be able to send the Case Study PDF to a local printing place and have them print a nice hard copy. If they can legally print and bound it for me, I am thinking that would be quite more cost effective than having it mailed from Australia. If I have success, I will let you know.
I am most interested in those summary brochures pictured. jwleaks, would you mind posting a close up photo of the top of those brochures? I would love to search for them. If those can be mass printed (legally), I think they would be perfect to send to politicians in our country as we try to get the mandatory reporting laws changed.
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ARC Information pack received in relation to my help, assistance, evidence and testimony
by jwleaks inthis was sent to me by the arc for assisting and providing evidence and testimony in relation to jehovah's witnesses, the watchtower bible & tract society of australia, terrence o'brien, vincent toole, and geoffrey jackson of the governing body.. photo 1. a thank you letter, final report, summary brochures of the entire arc, every single case study and related document on a usb memory stick.. photo 2. close up of official arc usb memory stick with every single case study every single report and all the documents used.. photo 3. this arrived last year.
case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses.
i sent this official hardcopy to barbara anderson as a gift for all her hard work.. .
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That is great! I would love to have a copy of the case study. I found on their website where you can order hard copies. I went through the steps to order it, (with no payment needed; you just request it) and it said my order is "awaiting approval". I doubt I get approved, especially since I live in America, but hopefully, I can ask if I can pay for the printing and shipping.
Link: http://childabuseroyalcommission.printmanagement.com.au