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  Ritualistic behaviour within the JW faith

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  i was thinking about how the society criticises other faiths such as catholics because of their ritualistic procedures.. but couldn't it be said that witnesses have their own deeply ritualistic behaviours?.

  think about the prayers said at meetings.

  they all have to follow the same basic style and theme, and include the same basic content.. what about the ritualistic procedures of the memorial, and the passing of emblems - even to the servers and speaker (although they actually handle them more than everyone, they do their own special act of passing them to each other).

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  The official line, of course, is they don't have any ritualistic behaviors, but they certainly do. The Memorial is probably the first to come to mind (heavy on ritual), but the monthly turning in of field service is a far more common one, with elders tapping people on their shoulders and calling them on the phone, then tabulating all the stats and sending them off to the branch. Every month it's the same thing.
  
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  2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure

  by pale.emperor in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.

  no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.

  instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .

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  Thanks for the OP and the insightful comments. Yes, some things must be motivating the production and display of this vid.
  
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  CLAM Video - re Erich Frost (Apr 17-23 2017)

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

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  2. bible

  i normally don't bother going to the midweek jw meetings much.

  however, upon reading in the april 2017 meeting workbook that there was to be a video about erich frost (former do for saxony & nazi prisoner in sachsenhausen concentration camp) i wanted to attend as i had read about this brother in history texts by detlef garbe and hans hesse.

  i had also visited auschwitz several times and noted that the museum had a display / exhibition about jehovah's witnesses.

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  Thanks for the post. It's informative—on several fronts.
  
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  The Official Jehovah's Witness guide to RESEARCH!

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  Sad because it is so true...
  
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  Redating the bible-Song of deborah (Shamgar)

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

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  2. bible

  the hebrew language in biblical form did not exit until after 800 bce (likely 722).

  the presents ex 15 and judges 5 as early but not contemporary.. well wake up... i'm a minimalist however i know the song of deborah fits somewhere.... like before omri.. (established as the first israelite ruler of israel..).

  so where does that leave deborah or the song of the sea... both early hebrew but not canaanite.... the answer laid in shamngar...note:.

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  we Jews
  

  I didn't know all Jews were so united!
  
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  Attack near St Catherine's Monastery

  by Earnest in

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  2. friends

  following on from the bombings of coptic churches in egypt, there was an attack earlier this month on a checkpoint near st catherine's monastery.

  this monastery dates back to the time of justinian and has a number of early bible mss including part of codex sinaiticus of the fourth century.. i am surprised this hasn't happened before because isis is active in northern sinai and it would be a major event were they to gain access and wreak havoc at st catherine's monastery.

  although the isolation of the monastery has contributed to its survival over 1400 years, it is in the forefront of digitising its manuscript collection.

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  Thanks, Earnest, for this info. It makes me wonder if they'll be back and if Egypt will beef up security there.
  
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  DPA Cards: Word Has Come Down To Badger People

  by JW_Rogue in

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  2. beliefs

  i know this must be coming down from the top because the elders in my hall who didn't really care before are all concerned about it.

  must be on the list of things to do before the co comes back around.

  in past years i never really thought about the dpa.

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  Excuse my ignorance, but is this DPA just over health matters or does it allow the designee to control other aspects of the incapacitated one's life, like finances?
  
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  Pretoria resident says - before high court in South Africa - he is the anointed one !

  by ZAPPA-ESQUE in

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  pretoria [ south africa] - an unusual urgent application served before the gauteng high court this week,in which a lyttelton manor resident, who said he is was known as the “anointed one” among jehovah’s witnesses, asked the court to officially swear him in as the worldwide leader of the organisation.. ernest gericke, in papers before the court, told judge bill prinsloo that the “first business of the christ is the legal establishment of the kingdom of god on earth, known as the jehovah’s kingdom.” .

  gericke said this involved the the conducting of a covenant for a kingdom, which is to take place on april 11. .

  “in order to effect the legal requirements for the kingdom this honourable court is requested to hear the public oath of the office of the king.

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  Hmmm, do you think the GB will invite him to join their number? His videos might make Lett's look rather mild...
  
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  Guessing and uncertainty in the eukaryotic fossil world

  by Earnest in

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  the journal nature, dated 14 march 2017, has an article entitled fossil algae hold clues to origin of modern photosynthesis reporting on a newly discovered set of 'eukaryotic' specimens which may help to identify the origin of photosynthesis in eukaryotes.

  however, there is some uncertainty in this.. it can be difficult to pinpoint exactly where ancient fossils lie on the tree of life because, billions of years ago, many organisms were superficially similar.

  “that’s the problem with this field,” says [nicholas butterfield, a palaeobiologist at the university of cambridge, uk].

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  Thanks for the post—interesting stuff.
  
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  Mormon Baptizing the dead??

  by James Mixon in

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  why the big controversy over baptizing the dead, they are dead folks..i know it's a quirky practice but jewish leaders are up in arms because the lds leaders are baptizing holocaust victims..what harm is it??

  ?hell jw's are preaching everyone will go up in flames no one believe that crap except jw but no one is up in arms, they know they walk a different step....the lds leaders agreed to halt baptisms specifically of jews holocaust victims in 2010 but they are at it again, baptizing jews.

  this is funny as hell to me.

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  Not that I'm defending the Mormons, but facts can be helpful. If you read 1 Cor. 15:29—not in the NWT, you can perhaps see why the LDS people feel the way they do. As for Jews objecting, they might consider that the practice of ritualistically doing things for the dead went on in their own tradition too. At 2 Maccabees 12:39-45 Judas Maccabee atones for the sinful dead by sacrifice.

  One cannot help but wonder if certain Jews of today are more upset by a group of professed Christians "invading" the Jewish sphere of something many Jews consider holy and thus exclusively their domain.