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  "Jehovah's Witnesses' withheld info will cost them..."

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

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  2. child-abuse

  latest perspective of the san diego reader on wts loosing its $4000 per day sanction appeal.... https://m.sandiegoreader.com/news/2017/nov/10/ticker-jehovahs-witnesses-withheld-info-4000-day/?templates=mobile.

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  Can you imagine being a Witness in San Diego and having to deal with this from householders as you go from door-to-door? That might well cause some people to wake up. What will the GB do if this becomes a public relations issue in San Diego?
  
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  JW.ORG turning into an evangelical clone

  by Pistoff in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i clicked this link to the november 2017 tvjw video, in it they defend their 2 witness policy, though, gutlessly, they do not mention it in the context of child sexual abuse.. anyway, check out the christian jehovian song at 57:06, ugh, makes me nauseous.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksz0qiftsok&feature=youtu.be&t=53m25s.

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  Something has precipitated all this emphasis on accuracy. Something legal perhaps? This isn't coming out of the blue...
  
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  "we would never deliberately distort a quotation"

  by ttdtt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  omg my head exploded!in this months broadcast - splian goes off on how much care the wt in making sure its facts are correct, and how they make sure their quotes are not taking from people who have a bad reputation or have an agenda.

  and that the make sure its always in context!.

  they are such liars!.

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  SBF,

  Frankly they produce so little serious literature these days that it may be much less of an issue than it once was.
  

  If so, then why is it being brought up now? Typically they do not bring up issues out of the blue, right? So something recent must have precipitated Splane's words...
  
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  Bethel Dwelling Manual (2004 Edition, 2012 Printing)

  by thebrokenkite in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a peace offering to those recently questioning if i'm undercover, though new conspiracies may surface.

  ;) please excuse the ongoing construction of the site and enjoy!.

  http://thebrokenkite.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/dwelling-together-in-unity.pdf.

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  Thanks for the share. I imagine that there must be a new one out or in the works because so much has changed in Bethel life in recent years, and some of the quoted biblical passages now read differently in the revised NWT. Do you know about a revision?
  
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  Is "fornication" still used by Witnesses?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in 2013 the revised nwt came out and changed the old edition's "fornication" and its related words "fornicating," "fornicator" etc.

  in all their roughly 70 occurrences.

  has the word completely dropped from usage in the witness world?

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  In 2013 the revised NWT came out and changed the old edition's "fornication" and its related words "fornicating," "fornicator" etc. in all their roughly 70 occurrences.

  Has the word completely dropped from usage in the Witness world? For example, is it still used in the disfellowshiping report sent to the branch which lists the sin the DFed one is guilty of?

  I could be wrong, but this is one word that has a long history, one not easy to erase by a change in translation.
  
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  Is There Any Thing That Would Make A JW SERIOUSLY Question Their Religion?

  by minimus in

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  i realize that jehovah’s witnesses have been dumbed down for long time now.

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  still, i think there must be something that would make them really question their beliefs, even their life.. i think that if witnesses were told they could take blood or that disfellowshipping was unloving, they might stop and take a hard look at everything they have sacrificed their lives for.. i know the organization has muddled these subjects before but the i think even die hard witnesses might start to second guess the governing body..

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  MNINC:

  Perhaps if one of the governing body members showed up to morning worship with a beard, that might do it.
  

  On the contrary, it might show that they are lightening up and thereby attract some inactive ones to return.

  Of course, it's impossible to just show up with a beard. Since it takes time to grow one, the scenario is unreal (perhaps your comments were meant to be?) and the GB members are so high profile and constantly in the limelight, they could never take off for a while and then grow one unawares. It would be nice if they did grow some beards, however.
  
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  Pale.Emperor Meets A Born Again Christian

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  of all the religions out there one religion that's always filled me with exasperation was the born again christian belief system.

  to make matters worse, the street preachers i see and hear here in liverpool always tend to be crack pot, loud mouths, attention seeking and just plain annoying.. this idea that "im going to heaven, you're going to hell" is enough to make me not want to worship their god even if he did exist.

  but today i met two.

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  Thanks for relating that. Yep, the first one sounded real hardcore.

  Picture this one: I knew a Jewish chap who decided to take a day off from family and work, get a seat on a fishing boat mainly for tourists, and go out to sea to fish for the day. Once he got out there, he discovered all the other non-crew members on board were born-againers. When they found out he was Jewish, they laid into him for the entire day, vainly attempting to "save" him. He recalled it to me as one of the really harrowing days of his life.
  
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  Change in CA?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  having been out for a long time, i'm wondering in what year the change in circuit assemblies took place when they went from two days to just one.

  anyone know for sure?.

  thanks in advance..

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  wifiB: thanks. That's the info I was looking for.
  

  DS: yeah, I vaguely remember that. At about that time I was beginning to tune out and grappling with what I was going to do with the org and my future. It took a while to work it all out.
  
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  Change in CA?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  having been out for a long time, i'm wondering in what year the change in circuit assemblies took place when they went from two days to just one.

  anyone know for sure?.

  thanks in advance..

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  Having been out for a long time, I'm wondering in what year the change in circuit assemblies took place when they went from two days to just one. Anyone know for sure?

  Thanks in advance.
  
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  Explanation please on the change of the term "worldly"

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've picked up from several replies to posts here that the org has stopped using the term "worldly" as it applies to people.

  this must have happened after i left.

  would someone be so kind as to explain the "rationale" behind this shift?

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  I've picked up from several replies to posts here that the org has stopped using the term "worldly" as it applies to people. This must have happened after I left. Would someone be so kind as to explain the "rationale" behind this shift? What is/are the preferred term(s) now for non-JWs? Just how is "worldly" used now? When dd the change occur?
  

  Thanks.