Posts by careful

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How many anointed have come and gone; how many remain?

by Moster in

just wondering if there is any data about how many anointed there were in say 1914, and considering most would have passed 'beyond the veil' already, are the jw's numbers adding up?

we know there are more in 2017 then there were in 2016, but just where are we in the grand total column?.

careful

Correction: the JW org website now has the 2017 partaker stat:

Memorial Partakers Worldwide: 18,564.

That's up by over 500 from the 2016 number, 18,013.

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How many anointed have come and gone; how many remain?

by Moster in

just wondering if there is any data about how many anointed there were in say 1914, and considering most would have passed 'beyond the veil' already, are the jw's numbers adding up?

we know there are more in 2017 then there were in 2016, but just where are we in the grand total column?.

careful

Sour Grapes, where in the world did you get this?

At the end of the first century, there were over 1,000,000 Christians.

As for any statistics for Memorial partakers for last year, knowing that depends on whether GB II decides to share that info or not. It hasn't happened yet.

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2017 Service Year Report Grand Totals

by Drearyweather in

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2017 figures released to bethel families worldwide:.

peak publishers: 8,457,107. total baptized: 284,212 .

regular pioneers: 1,225,279 .

"Implementing non-construction solutions such as merging or relocating congregations"—well, that's sure doublespeak for "we're shutting down a lot of congregations and selling off plenty of KHs"

More doublespeak: "Significant features of the service year report will soon be available on jw.org." In other words, we're not going to tell you anything that's negative in our eyes! No more real disclosure of the ministry numbers.

SBF: according to the pic here: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6248588200902656/life-saving-message

it would not be boring at all to work the carts now: just be sure you've got your smartphone! You can rack up hours playing video games, catching up on email, going on facebook, etc. Pioneering looks easier than ever!

You are spot on here: "there is a bifurcation taking place between JW skeptics on the periphery and hardcore JWs who are becoming more committed."

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Kingdom Hall ... BURGER KING?

by sparky1 in

i live in a very rural part of the northeastern united states.

after 9 years of waiting, the local witnesses are getting their new kingdom hall.

it is being built on a back road next to a sandpit.

careful

You mean we can get a double cheeseburger and fries during the WT study? THAT might start bringing the people back!

Yeah, so where in NE is this new KH?

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Greek Bethel up for sale: video - 77 Kifisias Avenue, Marousi, Athens

by darkspilver in

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the greek bethel at 77 kifisias avenue, marousi, athens, is up for sale.

below is the sales video:https://vimeo.com/242230932see also: http://www.danos.gr/property-sale-in-marousi/.

from the bethel tour brochure:.

careful

What kind of sales "video" is this? A still pic shown for 2 min. and 27 seconds with stale music?

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Is the name Jehovah`s Witnesses a misnomer ?

by smiddy3 in

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i ask this because from what i read on this board lately is that they jw`s seem to be very reluctant to engage in conversation with anybody nowadays and are only interested in placing literature at carts.. and if anyone brings up questions in their d2d work that challenge them ( like the arc ) they will promptly excuse themselves and move on.

also didn`t jesus say "this good news of the kingdom would be preached in all the inhabited earth " for a witness ?.

when was the last time you heard a jw speak about "the good news of the kingdom" ?

careful

The thread seems to have gotten off track. The OP smiddy, I think, is not talking about whether to call them Jehovah's or Jesus's witnesses, but the fact that whatever you want to call them, they are not giving the witness they used to. Rather they stand around the carts and seem to be intent on witnessing to no one:

JW`s seem to be very reluctant to engage in conversation with anybody nowadays and are only interested in placing literature at carts.

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MS meeting highlights

by lastmanstanding in

there are a few things of interest, but the biggest thing to tell is with regard to the amount of times that pornography was discussed.

not just one talk... several.

the last brother had a computer on the table with him as he talked about porn.

careful

Thanks for the post, but I don't understand this:

There was a video of GB Flowden.

Would you please explain?

Your words about elders, adultery, porno, booze, etc. call to mind that fairly recent post here of a bro. who had been a CO in Central America. He told experiences that were similar but even more widespread. One was how he tried to find a currently serving elder who had not been previously removed for adultery for an assembly part but he couldn't. Maybe US elders are becoming more like their Central American counterparts?

That statement of the bro. "service is draining, not just physically (as in secular work) but mentally, emotionally and spiritually" called to mind the recent post here with the pic of the four Witnesses at the cart, all busy playing with their smartphones.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6248588200902656/life-saving-message

Yep, looks real draining!

But your best statement is this one:

"so that you can please the governing body"

Nothing like idolatry! They really are embracing Roman Catholic theology with the GB being the Pope. Sickening...

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The New JWdom - Vew of Older Publications? (and other related questions)

by Magnum in

i feel that there aren’t many of that type anymore, but there have to be some – mostly old-timers.

how do they study?.

when i was active, i collected all the old publications i could find.

careful

What’s going on with JWs who are the studious/scholarly/research-inclined type?

I know that some of them have begun their own, underground forums. They do not generally bash the org but they do exchange ideas that sometimes disagree with the party line. They talk about Heb. and Greek and delve into real scholarly sources. For them it fulfills their intellectual needs that are not being met by the present brain-starved org. Some of these forums a person has to be invited to, vouched for, and so on. In other words, it's not unlike becoming an elder. However, there, in at least some cases, sisters can join in.

Are the trolls listening? Yikes! Something within the ranks that the GB cannot control!!! Better get those JCs rolling...

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Hebrew language question?

by Crazyguy in

vowel points were not added to the hebrew language until from what i have read the 10th century ad.

so how can anyone properly translate this language and the older canaanite dialect properly?.

careful

In modern Israel people speak a modern version of Hebrew. Their modern writing system has no vowel points. The modern Jews understand and communicate just fine with no vowel points. If you grow up speaking a language, which writing system is used for it is quite flexible. It does not necessarily need a system with all the sounds indicated in its writing system.

Language is primarily a spoken phenomenon. There are people who know their language just fine but are illiterate. Since Hebrew has continued without break for centuries, it's always had a intelligible life, with or without the vowel sounds being written down.

Sure, there will be a few instances where words will be lost or confused, as Earnest demonstrates, but the Jews I know do just fine with both modern spoken, and ancient biblical, Hebrew.

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AAAAAAAArrgh!

by zeb in

sir simon,.

how many dozen bloody times do i have to do the capcha thing before i get in.

one round of street signs or cars and that was it.

careful

AGREED! This has become a real pain...