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  Meaning of Luke 9:49,50

  by truthlover123 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  these two verses indicate that "others" were preaching in jesus' name and when the apostles reported it to him, he said "let him alone for he who is with us is not against us".... since the wtbts states they are the only way to salvation, what does this scripture mean?

  others have the right to salvation as well - straight from jesus' mouth- as long as they preach ( in the verse it says expel demons as well) using jesus name?

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  One thought—whether the WTS would ever agree with it or not does not matter.

  At Acts 18:24-5 there is a report about Apollos going from Alexandria, Egypt to Ephesus, Asia Minor (= Turkey) where he preached about Jesus on the basis of John the Baptist's testimony. It states that Priscilla and Aquila corrected him a bit (v. 26). Now if Jesus was known down in Egypt through the work of John the Baptist, then surely he was as well in Judea/Palestine also via John's disciples. That John had his own disciples is clear from Luke 7:18-20 and John 4:1. At least one of them became the apostle Andrew (John 1:35-40).

  If we go back to Acts again, we see Paul finding a group of 12 disciples of John in Ephesus and rebaptizing them as disciples of Jesus (19:1-17). So John's disciples were in various places. That he was not an unknown figure is also clear from Josephus speaking about him.
  

  Therefore, with all these references to John and his disciples, it seems likely that those mentioned in Luke 9 were disciples of John. Those you ask about were then disciples of John the Baptist who were speaking of Jesus. Since Jesus and John were on the same page, it should be no surprise that Jesus told his disciples to leave them alone. Whether they would ever convert to being one of his disciples, Jesus probably just let occur or not.
  
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  237,000 illegal migrants in the last 5 months... is it time to intervene?

  by silentbuddha in

  1. social
  2. current

  is it possible that anyone being truthful with themself can literally believe that there needs to be a cork placed in this problem.. if this continues, and most sources, not speaking about fox, are suggesting this is only going to get worse and at this rate there will be over 750k illegal migrants.

  how are we suppose to sustain this influx.

  the massive amounts of children flooding the schools in my own municipality is crippling, for many of the counties residents.. as an example the entire county offered free breakfast and lunch to all students.

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  blondie,

  Well, as I stated, I read it in the print edition of USA Today, but anyone can do a google search for this info. I just did and here are the results:

  https://www.pressreader.com/usa/usa-today-us-edition/20190306/textview
  

  Front page; article entitled "'Security and humanitarian crisis' is building, Border Patrol warns".
  
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  More Watchtower Property For Sale!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if this is old news then just scrap it.. .

  looks like more watchtower property is for sale.. .

  https://www.matele.be/bioul-le-centre-des-temoins-de-jehovah-a-vendre.

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  DOYKL,

  When I was in, the AHs were used during the week for the pioneer and kingdom ministry schools, as well as other meetings too. I don't know what's happened since.
  
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  Priests to made report..

  by zeb in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  today the 6-3-2019 .

  the attorney general for the state of victoria, australia is to push legislation that will require priests to report any confession that reveals child abuse.. will elders be required to do so?

  elders.

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  It will be interesting to see how the Roman Catholic church responds since the proposed law stands in direct contradiction to its traditional view on the sacredness and secrecy of confession. More sparks or a docile subservience? Time will tell...
  
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  237,000 illegal migrants in the last 5 months... is it time to intervene?

  by silentbuddha in

  1. social
  2. current

  is it possible that anyone being truthful with themself can literally believe that there needs to be a cork placed in this problem.. if this continues, and most sources, not speaking about fox, are suggesting this is only going to get worse and at this rate there will be over 750k illegal migrants.

  how are we suppose to sustain this influx.

  the massive amounts of children flooding the schools in my own municipality is crippling, for many of the counties residents.. as an example the entire county offered free breakfast and lunch to all students.

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  silentbuddha, wasnanelder, blondie,
  

  I read the same story with the same stats in today's USA Today newspaper (print edition).
  
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  Lawsuit against the Watchtower for child abuse issue accepted in Quebec(Canada)

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hi everyone, i got the news that the lawsuit against the watchtower for the child abuse issue has been accepted in quebec(canada).

  that means it can proceed further.

  it is a first victory.

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  Thx for the update.
  
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  Will You Stop Listening To Michael Jackson’s Music?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since the hbo documentary, more people are condemning mj.

  will these child abuse allegations affect you if you ever liked his music?.

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  The question presupposes that I ever listened to his music to begin with. I never have.
  
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  How Long Will YOU Identify As A Jehovah’s Witness?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some witnesses realize that they got into a religion and it turned out to be disastrous.

  many decide they have to somehow get out.

  some do it right away and others take longer.. where are you in your journey?

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  Exelder—spot on!
  
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  The phrase "one of Jehovah's Witnesses"

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jws don't say, "i am a jehovah's witness.".

  instead, they say, "i am one of jehovah's witnesses.".

  what does the second way of saying it convey that the first does not?.

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  In Witness theology it has to do with the notion of answering the devil's challenge seen in the beginning of the book of Job. Everyone can stand up in "the universal court of divine sovereignty" (organizational phrase), that of answering the accusation which Satan made that all intelligent beings only serve God for the personal benefit gained. Each one then has the opportunity to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses, not a Jehovah's Witness.

  As a parallel you might consider a real court case: you have a friend named Sally who has been unjustly accused of something. You appear on behalf of your friend as a character witness. Would you be a Sally's witness or one of Sally's witnesses? Like it or not, that's the thinking behind the term "one of Jehovah's Witnesses."

  It's also why they say that Abel, Abraham, David, and Jesus were individually one of Jehovah's Witnesses, not a Jehovah's Witness.

  Of course, there is the secondary reason mentioned above, that the Witnesses want so greatly to separate themselves from other professed Christian religions. The primary reason, however, is theological.

  I've got to include this funny story. I was once on a shepherding call with the CO, a call on an inactive brother. The CO asked him, "Do you consider yourself a Jehovah's Witness?" The inactive brother said, "I'm surprised to hear you use such a term that does not agree with the slave's publications. No one can be 'a Jehovah's Witness.' Isn't that the term used by those who don't understand the issue raised by the devil?" The CO was really embarrassed and about crapped his pants. I loved the turning of the tables on that one! I had to restrain myself from laughing.
  
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  WT-Closing In On 50 Subpoenas!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  more subpoenas have been added.

  so the watchtower is getting close to 50. i think there are about 44 of them listed here.

  brumley the witchhunter!.

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  Two weeks ago Corney posted the following info that is on-topic here:

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5695516093448192/electronic-frontier-foundation-v-watch-tower-society
  

  From my admittedly limited understanding of the topic, the GB and their Legal Department was not really attempting to enforce the laws or appeal to the government to do so, or even to take these people to court, but to make them start having to pay legal fees, hire lawyers, and so on, in other words put the muscle on them legally, something that, at least on the surface, the WTS can afford since they have free lawyers, whereas those posting in-house secret documents do not. It was an attempt to scare those posting these docs with legal fees in order to get them to stop leaking the org's secret documents, and to pay for having done so.
  

  However, the GB must be more serious now since they are supposed to have retained a pricey legal firm to advise them here: "Watchtower had to hire Cowan, Liebowitz & Latman, a top firm in the field of copyright law, one of the six best ones nationwide according to The Legal 500 and one of the seven best ones in NY - according to Chambers." (per Corney's post) That would represent a change on their part, if they are forking over big bucks at a time when funds are tight.
  

  Then another legal team is supposed to have undertaken to represent the Electronic Frontier Foundation, YouTube's legal team, "pro bono, namely Garvey Schubert Barer," after the org hit YouTube with a subpoena (again according to Corney's post).
  

  If anyone is keeping up on these things, an inside report would be appreciated by many here.
  

  And thanks, Atlantis!