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Interpretation of Acts 15:28,29

by Christianhonest in

what does the mandate to "abstain from blood" mean for jehovah's witnesses freed from the control of the governing body?.

it had previously been understood that the best translation of acts 15: 28-30 was "to abstain from blood.

" however, a careful analysis of the passage shows that the best translation of this passage is "to abstain from (shedding) blood," where the word "pour out," which does not appear in ancient manuscripts and other biblical versions, does.it appears there understood in elliptical form.in the same way it happened in the case of colossians 1: 16-20 where the new world translation of the holy scriptures correctly inserted the word "other" several times, understood there in elliptical form, in the phrase of the original greek "all things ", thus obtaining the correct translation" all (other) things ".even though christianity reaffirms itself in translating this passage as saying that "through him all things were created", because he maintains that jesus is god according to his pagan doctrine of the trinity, multiple biblical passages sustainthe biblical truth that jesus is not jehovah god, but his beloved son that god later used as his creative partner.according to this paul said that "though he existed in the form of god, he did not give consideration to a usurpation, namely, that he should be equal to god, no, rather, he emptied himself and took the form of a slave and he came to be in the likeness of men, more than that, when he was in the manner of a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death, yes, death on a torture stake, for this same reason, also, god he exalted a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above all else, so that in jesus' name every knee of those [who are] in heaven and those who are [over] the earth and those [who are] under the ground, and openly recognize * every tongue that jesus christ is lord for the glory of god the father.

careful

Yes, welcome to the forum. There are at least two problems with your take on Acts 15.

1. If your interpretation of "to abstain from (shedding) blood" (my emphasis) has force, then what is the point of the next words about not eating meat from animals that have been strangled? Isn't the blood connection obvious? Indeed, weren't Jews required to shed an animal's blood before eating it? That's hardly abstaining from shedding blood!

2. While your interpretation make be mentally creative, why does it run counter the the understanding that genuine biblical scholarship has had for centuries of this passage? The scholars responsible for connecting not eating strangled meat with the need to drain the blood first, and thus with not eating unbled meat, existed long before the WTS, because it is based on Lev. 17:13.

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Short-sighted WT ?

by Tech49 in

it has always struck me that wt is so very short-sighted in many things.

often, they are very re-active, and not so much pro-active in their reasoning and the way they plan for the future.. just thinking today, and have kicked this one around for a while now.. is the watchtower organization truly sustainable?

is a new monetary structure on the horizon?

careful

Where's slimboyfat? He'd love this one!

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Meaning of Luke 9:49,50

by truthlover123 in

these two verses indicate that "others" were preaching in jesus' name and when the apostles reported it to him, he said "let him alone for he who is with us is not against us".... since the wtbts states they are the only way to salvation, what does this scripture mean?

others have the right to salvation as well - straight from jesus' mouth- as long as they preach ( in the verse it says expel demons as well) using jesus name?

careful

One thought—whether the WTS would ever agree with it or not does not matter.

At Acts 18:24-5 there is a report about Apollos going from Alexandria, Egypt to Ephesus, Asia Minor (= Turkey) where he preached about Jesus on the basis of John the Baptist's testimony. It states that Priscilla and Aquila corrected him a bit (v. 26). Now if Jesus was known down in Egypt through the work of John the Baptist, then surely he was as well in Judea/Palestine also via John's disciples. That John had his own disciples is clear from Luke 7:18-20 and John 4:1. At least one of them became the apostle Andrew (John 1:35-40).

If we go back to Acts again, we see Paul finding a group of 12 disciples of John in Ephesus and rebaptizing them as disciples of Jesus (19:1-17). So John's disciples were in various places. That he was not an unknown figure is also clear from Josephus speaking about him.

Therefore, with all these references to John and his disciples, it seems likely that those mentioned in Luke 9 were disciples of John. Those you ask about were then disciples of John the Baptist who were speaking of Jesus. Since Jesus and John were on the same page, it should be no surprise that Jesus told his disciples to leave them alone. Whether they would ever convert to being one of his disciples, Jesus probably just let occur or not.

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237,000 illegal migrants in the last 5 months... is it time to intervene?

by silentbuddha in

is it possible that anyone being truthful with themself can literally believe that there needs to be a cork placed in this problem.. if this continues, and most sources, not speaking about fox, are suggesting this is only going to get worse and at this rate there will be over 750k illegal migrants.

how are we suppose to sustain this influx.

the massive amounts of children flooding the schools in my own municipality is crippling, for many of the counties residents.. as an example the entire county offered free breakfast and lunch to all students.

careful

blondie,

Well, as I stated, I read it in the print edition of USA Today, but anyone can do a google search for this info. I just did and here are the results:

https://www.pressreader.com/usa/usa-today-us-edition/20190306/textview

Front page; article entitled "'Security and humanitarian crisis' is building, Border Patrol warns".

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More Watchtower Property For Sale!

by Atlantis in

if this is old news then just scrap it.. .

looks like more watchtower property is for sale.. .

https://www.matele.be/bioul-le-centre-des-temoins-de-jehovah-a-vendre.

careful

DOYKL,

When I was in, the AHs were used during the week for the pioneer and kingdom ministry schools, as well as other meetings too. I don't know what's happened since.

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Priests to made report..

by zeb in

today the 6-3-2019 .

the attorney general for the state of victoria, australia is to push legislation that will require priests to report any confession that reveals child abuse.. will elders be required to do so?

elders.

careful

It will be interesting to see how the Roman Catholic church responds since the proposed law stands in direct contradiction to its traditional view on the sacredness and secrecy of confession. More sparks or a docile subservience? Time will tell...

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237,000 illegal migrants in the last 5 months... is it time to intervene?

by silentbuddha in

is it possible that anyone being truthful with themself can literally believe that there needs to be a cork placed in this problem.. if this continues, and most sources, not speaking about fox, are suggesting this is only going to get worse and at this rate there will be over 750k illegal migrants.

how are we suppose to sustain this influx.

the massive amounts of children flooding the schools in my own municipality is crippling, for many of the counties residents.. as an example the entire county offered free breakfast and lunch to all students.