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  Los Angeles Times: California braces for deluge of child-sex-assault lawsuits under new law

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-20/california-child-sex-assault-lawsuits-new-law.

  san diego — matt smyth’s secret was revealed in his senior year of high school with a knock on the front door of his family’s fallbrook, calif., home.. two plainclothes sheriff’s detectives were investigating reports that smyth’s former assistant scoutmaster — the one who’d driven kids to boy scout meetings, chaperoned camp-outs and hosted fishing outings on his bucolic property — had molested several boys.. to the shock of his parents, smyth shared that he’d been a victim, too.

  but the bombshell stayed close to home for decades.

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  Thanks for the update. Further fear among the GB and others who are in the know within the org.
  
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  7 New Files Just Arrived!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2019--prison witnessing training seminar.

  2019--10-14--follow up tp prison witnessing training seminar.

  2019--example notice to cease and desist for congregation2019--example notice to cease and desist for watchtower2019--guide to configuring kingdom hall audio and video system computer-s-132-e2019--example midweek meeting schedule-s-140-e2020--example year text-yt20-eall are in this zipped folderhttps://we.tl/t-dheuiguqtf atlantis!

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  As always, thanks Atlantis for the shares.

  I had to laugh at the Cease and Desist letters. At the end it reads "You have been warned" which is then immediately followed by "Respectfully"—somehow those two thoughts don't seem to mesh well...

  In the Prison Witnessing Training Seminar there is this direction on p. 2: "Be friendly, interested in other chaplains." Right! Elders should show interest in "other" chaplains—you've go tot be kidding! Good elders will be about as interested in showing sincere interest in "Christendom's" chaplains as they would in inviting most posters here over for dinner!

  They also used "a Jehovah's Witness." They must be breaking down on that one.There was a post here about a year ago on how that was always a no-no.

  There are some good points on being careful not to be taken in by insincere prisoners, but again, I had to laugh at the advice on p. 6: "Be SHARP." How many elders, especially today, can really be sharp? They're trained not to think for themselves about anything. How can they be sharp?

  The reinstatement directions seem problematic. I guess that would be difficult if not impossible, at least in some cases.
  
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  2019 Shepherd The Flock Of God and More!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  2019 information-for-expectant-mothers-s-401-e. 2019-addendum-to-shepherd-book-sfla-e_bi2019-shepherd-the-flock-of-god-october-sfl_e2020-kingdom-ministry-school-program-elders-pgme-20-e. instructions to access my profile.

  https://we.tl/t-rex13nnhax atlantis!

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  I guess I get to be the first to thank you, Atlantis!

  
  

  On the title and copyright pages of the Shepherd the Flock booklet, there is no statement that the work is for elders only, is confidential, etc. In fact, it even states "To make a donation, please visit donate.jw.org." as if elders would not already know this!? So are they throwing in the towel and accepting that these supposedly confidential, in-house works are being made available to the public, and think "why not at least make a pitch for some money"? Ha! Probably just an oversight.
  
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  Annual Mtg Points

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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  2. friends

  matt 28: 19 is the year text.

  new understanding on joel ch 2 who are the locusts?.

  there is a new building addition to warwick in the works.

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  The fact that they are undertaking this clearly expensive building project and that they would produce a print edition of the study NWT, of just Matt-Acts now (and thus committing themselves to future volumes), seems to speak of them not being in the financial bind they say they were just a couple of years ago. Was that "crisis" just a sham like so many other things they stage/orchestrate, or has the donation money increased so that they can continue to make those secret payouts in the CSA lawsuits, as well as fund these projects?
  
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  Annual Mtg Points

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  matt 28: 19 is the year text.

  new understanding on joel ch 2 who are the locusts?.

  there is a new building addition to warwick in the works.

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  Thanks, zing.
  
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  News from the 2019 Annual Meeting

  by RubaDub in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the annual meeting (2019) is happening as i am posting this.. any comments yet or information from what is being presented?.

  rub a dub.

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  So has anyone actually found out what went on?
  
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  New KHs Still Being Built!

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  https://www.thereminder.ca/news/local-news/new-home-under-construction-for-jehovah-s-witnesses-1.23964617.

  flin flon, ca.

  according to statistics supplied by jehovah’s witnesses canada, about 85 jehovah’s witnesses live in flin flon, with around 100 people coming to each of the group’s biweekly meetings.. “we needed a new hall because the congregation has outgrown the old hall,” said congregation elder kelly flodell in a press release..

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  Yes, let me add my thanks, newsheep, for the info on Mark Sanderson.

  As for new KHs being built, don't you think that if they are going to keep up the line that all those being sold are for building new ones, they had better publicize the few new ones that apear? Otherwise, some of the "faithful" might start using their heads and start thinking some UN-faithful things!
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Came to My Neighborhood

  by Juan Viejo2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  for nearly two years i have not seen any jehovah's witnesses going door to door in my neighborhood.

  that was not the case when my wife and i first moved here (north central oregon).

  in fact, our neighborhood was visited at least once every 4 to 5 months - even in the coldest winter months.

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  JV, so good to hear from you! I've missed your posts and comments, and esp. the good info you have shared from contacts still in the org or your own past experience.
  

  As to this post of yours, that's quite a mindful. Things really have gone downhill in multiple ways. The org has become a shadow of what it used to be. As you document here, the non-preaching, non-disciple-making work shows this as do the financial crisis, the CSA issue, the adoption of church-like practices of popular music and entertainment, the glitzy monthly broadcast, and the putting up of a "Bible museum." The org and its leadership are suffering greatly on multiple fronts, largely due to their own stupid decision-making.

  Please drop more often and share info with us. Your ongoing projects sound interesting and should prove fruitful.
  

  
  
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  Article: Fresno, California JW elder sexually assaulted a 17-year-old girl

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  subject: fresno, ca jw elder sexually assaulted a 17-year-old girl sept. 20, 2019 https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article235306577.html.

  fresno, ca church elder makes plea deal in sex abuse case | the fresno bee.

  a 45-year-old fresno man, who worked as a police dispatcher in madera, pleaded no contest on friday to charges he sexually assaulted a 17-year-old girl from his church.

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  Thanks for the ref. and comments. Hecce and Vidiot: spot on!
  
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  Ruin those Ruining th Earth

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it has been mentioned before but since we have been discussing environmental issues on another thread, i thought it might be timely to discuss rev 11:18 which has recently become a popular text for those christians concerned about environmental threats of pollution and climate change.

  is this passage being interpreted correctly?

  did the writer somehow anticipate the modern environmental situation, or did he intend something more in keeping with the bible's general concerns of morality and sin?.

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  As any good NT lexicon points out, the Greek word diaphtheiro (διαφθείρω) can have either a physical or moral meaning (BDAG, 239; Grimm-Thayer, 143). At Luke 12:33 it is found in the first sense; at 1 Tim 6:5, the second.

  SBF, your comment “It’s fair to point out that JWs probably interpret Rev 11:18 in a way the author didn’t intend. It’s also fair to point out that this is not at all uncommon, and indeed NT writers do the same with the OT” is good. However, I would add that in the Johannine writings the author(s) very frequently employed intentional ambiguity. Indeed he/they seem to delight in it. Thus to say that the author of Rev “didn’t intend” a certain meaning can be problematic on its face.