Thx so much PP for the OP and report. Thx too FFG for your thoughts. Those in charge of the org are really living in their own world, out of touch with young Witnesses. Indeed, it will be educational to see how things develop when in-person meetings and the D2D work begins again.
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CO said; “Friends (plural) who’ve been raised in the truth are beginning to have doubts regarding their faith”
by pistolpete inhere is what a co said at the elders and ms meeting.
it goes to show that no matter how hard the governing body tries to instill fear of apostates, it's just not working on the young crowd of jws.. it's a new generations of born in jws--------and they don't buy this shit anymore.
it's really over for the watchtower.
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What is it with these lard ass GB and gold rings and watches?
by mickbobcat inthey wear jewelry like they are some don from the cosa nostra.
watches and rings like some cheap pimp.
hey they are cheap pimps.
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These are gifts that wealthy Witnesses give the power structure to earn brownie points from "God's spokesmen." It's the ultimate "green handshake." They also get free trips overseas from such ones. After getting such gifts the GB members "feel grateful" and show it by wearing such expensive jewelry.
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Leaked David Spane Apostate Rant? (Upcoming Lloyd Evans Video)
by Jofi_Wofo inlloyd has a reminder set for a "leaked" video that he will be reviewing tomorrow, but it lacks details in the description.
does anyone know what video he is referring to, or is this an upcoming loyd evans exclusive?.
i find leaks exciting, especially if it's something that was never meant to be public and puts some serious egg on the faces of the blundering body..
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DOC and pistolpete: spot on!
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In 4-3 judgment, Montana Supreme Court allows Nunez ($35M) case to be relitigated under another legal theory
by Corney inas a reminder, the plaintiff in that case, alexis nunez, was abused by her step-grandfather, maximo reyes, who have been disfellowshipped for one year for abusing his children.
she sued the organization for failure to report the known abuse to police and was awarded $35 million by a jury while another plaintiff (her aunt) lost her case.
the supreme court of montana reversed the award, finding that congregation and bethel elders were exempt from duty to report.. the plaintiff then asked the district court to allow her to sue the org again under another legal theory - common law negligence - which has been voluntarily abandoned by her counsel before the trial.
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As always Corney, thanks for the update. Please keep us informed.
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The Execution of Ed Dunlap
by Vanderhoven7 inamazing insights into wts doctrine and practice from a former bethelite who worked with ray franz on the aid book.. https://youtu.be/mz6mjycc7ag.
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I never knew Ed Dunlap but sure enjoyed the James commentary.
RK, wow, that's quite a project making up that letter and sending it off to the places you have. It's taken me a long time to stop laughing! It shows how vulnerable the org is to a thinking person since those in the org trust rather than think. No wonder it's had results.
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Senior Judge to Revisit Case-Law on Authorizing Medical Treatment Against Wishes of Mature Minor
by Corney inhttps://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/ewhc/fam/2020/3003.html.
nearly two weeks ago, sir james munby, a privy council member, formerly a law commission chairman, high court's family division president, and a lord justice of appeal, issued a short emergency order in a blood transfusion case closely resembling mcewan's the children act.. here are some excerpts:.
2. the case involves the deeply troubling question of whether a blood transfusion should be administered to a young woman who is almost, not quite, 16, against her profound religious beliefs.
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As usual, thanks Corney, for keeping us up-to-date on this. The Gillick competency notion is UK-Commonwealth one. Do you, or anyone else here, know how EU or USA courts feel about his legal idea? It's ironic that it came about from the desire for contraception by those under 16 yo who wanted to keep their parents in the dark about it, something the WTS would never condone, yet is being used by WTS lawyers for the blood issue.
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EU top court rules on JW blood transfusion case
by Corney inthe court of justice of the european union (cjeu) yesterday delivered the judgment (press release) on a request of the supreme court of latvia on whether domestic authorities are obliged to reimburse costs of cross-border medical treatment when the patient's decision to perform it in another european country was based on religious, not medical, grounds.
the opinion of advocate general (summarized here) is helpful in understanding the case.. the son of the applicant in the main proceedings had to have open heart surgery.
that operation was available in the latter’s member state of affiliation, latvia, but could not be carried out without a blood transfusion.
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Thx Corney for the update.
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They could not totally do a 360 turn on the Blood nonsense, because they would face costly Litigation from families who had lost loved ones unnecessarily.
Well said!
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Three new lawsuits against Watchtower filed under NY Child Victims Act (CVA) this October, bringing number of CVA cases up to six
by Corney innew cases:.
diaz case, filed on 10/21/2020 by zalkin law firm - two plaintiffs abused (here and hereinafter - allegedly) by two ministerial servants in 1970s.. iglesias case, filed on 10/19/2020 by eisenberg & baum, llp against various nyc and wt entities - abused by an "elder john doe" and "[travelling] overseer john" in 1970s and 1980s.. aldridge case, filed 10/06/2020 by zalkin law firm - abused by a congregation elder in 1970s.. older cases:.
tarry case (no 1 and no 2), filed on 09/17/2019 and 07/23/2020 by parker waichman llp - abused by a publisher in 1984. very weak case.
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Thanks. Keep us posted please.
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Belgium: Jehovah’s Witnesses to face trial for discrimination and incitement to hate
by AndersonsInfo injehovah’s witnesses to face trial for discrimination and incitement to hate.
https://www.thebulletin.be/jehovahs-witnesses-face-trial-discrimination-and-incitement-hate?fbclid=iwar3wroaxyiadw0lomgmway-jkwzgzqxtswsid1d2lxhjgtndnfvvclqboo0.
"while jehovah’s witnesses have been the target of civil court cases before, this is the first time an entire congregation has ever been charged with a crime.".
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Thanks for the post! This will be worth watching.
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Prime Minister of Australia announces intention to revoke Jehovah’s Witnesses charity status
by jwleaks intoday, marking the second anniversary of the australian national apology to victims and survivors of institutional child sexual abuse, the prime minister of australia has announce in federal parliament the intention to place sanctions against the jehovah’s witnesses in relation to child sexual abuse.. quote from prime minister:.
the royal commission [into institutional response to child sexual abuse], the [national] apology [to victims and survivors of institutional child sexual abuse] and these yearly reports are about accountability: bringing the truth into the light ... we still have, reprehensibly, four institutions that have been named publicly and that have blatantly refused to join the redress scheme.
they are jehovah's witnesses ... it's not acceptable.
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SBF first said:
Yes It’s puzzling why Watchtower didn’t ultimately join the compensation scheme to avoid sanction and reputation damage.
Yes, it seems puzzling. SBF then offered this reason why they won't join up:
Unless they simply can’t afford it. If not in this particular case in Australia, then as a general principle Watchtower has determined that they just don’t have the funds to compensate victims of abuse without effectively closing down the organisation in the process. So dragging heels, hunkering down, and accepting sanctions are their only options for attempting to keep the organisation afloat.
Surely financial reasons are often in play behind their many secretive decisions, but I have to wonder if perhaps more is involved here.
For example, would joining up with the redress scheme open them up to revealing their super-secret records to government authorities? If so, just like their not wanting to pay taxes in the USA back in the 1990s because that would have opened them up to government audits, is a similar principle at play here?
It's worth considering.