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  My guess for August WatchTower: GB claims we're in beginning stages of Great Tribulation due to World governments turning on JW's

  by WingCommander in

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  2. friends

  the september watchtower has already been released and is being discussed over on reddit.

  some highlights: .

  1. more hitting the flock on total reliance and obedience to god's representatives on earth today, the f&ds (the governing body, of course).

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  Slightly 'modified' light maybe.
  

  Or completely rewritten/sanitized so that no clue remains as to the real reason for the holdup. They are so regularly above-board, eh?
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  "Focus On The Inner Person" of Watchtower

  by FragrantAddendum in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in his recent "morning worship" talk https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/vodpgmevtmorningworship/pub-jwbvod24_25_video.

  mark sanderson inadvertently exposes the heart of watchtower.... .

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  Is this a recent morning worship episode? If so, what happened his beard???
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  CHATGPT and the Withdrawing of the Aug 2024 watchtower

  by wannaexit in

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  2. friends

  these days i seem to talk more to chatgpt than my husband .

  for fun, today i asked: why was the aug. 2024 watchtower deleted?

  the august 2024 issue of the "watchtower" magazine was withdrawn due to internal controversies and significant content concerns.

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  I wonder if the blood issue figures in at all. It's been a sore point with some governments and in the past the org leadership has had to trash some prepared some material on that topic, and then rewrite and reissue it later before it became common knowledge that they were on the verge of changing the blood policy.

  Of course, their legal liability here might prove huge.
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  Criminal trial begins for Lancaster, Penn., Jehovah's Witness Elder accused of molesting three girls.

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  it appears the perp got the victims disfellowshiped!

  the state attorney general has re-opened the botched case.. "the trial for a jehovah’s witness elder accused of molesting three girls in 1999 began in a lancaster county court monday with lawyers giving opening statements to the jury.. norman aviles-garriga, 45, was charged by the pennsylvania attorney general with two counts of aggravated indecent assault and 16 related offenses in connection with assaults alleged by three women who say the abuse happened when they were girls.. aviles-garriga is one of five pennsylvania jehovah's witnesses charged by a statewide grand jury with using their positions within their churches to sexually abuse children.

  the attorney general’s office brought charges against the men in october 2022 and february 2023.. .

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  Thanks for these updates, BA.

  
  
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  Redding Drama

  by Bill Covert in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if any one was so inclined to go back to 2013 on the site and locate the posts on the note takers reporting on the 2013 convention [the release of the rnwt and gb demanding obedience] there were two note takers who reported on the main talk "human apostates" that there was a new tactic being used, letter writing to the publishers homes.

  the main subject of those letters was a elder joe moore.

  on 12-26-2007 i taped court case #149893 to kh doors.

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  Have you considered therapy?

  Indeed. Some people need to step outside themselves and wake up as to how they appear to others.

  Get a real life!
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  New lawsuit against the Watchtower in Ontario, Canada

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the new class action lawsuit against the watchtower for having covered up child sexual abuse will begin in court on may 13-14-15, 2024 in the province of ontario, canada.

  it is not the same as in the province of quebec because the laws aren't the same.

  i don’t have more details.

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  Thx yalbmert99, for the update. As we know, these legal matters take a long time. Please keep us posted. If you find some media coverage, please share the link.
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  New lawsuit against the Watchtower in Ontario, Canada

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the new class action lawsuit against the watchtower for having covered up child sexual abuse will begin in court on may 13-14-15, 2024 in the province of ontario, canada.

  it is not the same as in the province of quebec because the laws aren't the same.

  i don’t have more details.

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  What's the word, yalbmert99? Any word on how the trial is going? If it began on schedule, May 13-15, shouldn't there be some report/results by now?
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  Any news on JWs in the Ukraine?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the war in the ukraine has been going on for 2+ years now, yet very little has been put forth by the org on how the witnesses are doing there.

  especially of interest would be just how the org has implemented their relatively new 'alternative service is ok' policy in lieu of real military service in a place where warfare is actually occurring.

  yet nothing is forthcoming from the gb on this matter, or any other issues, really.. does anyone know what's been going on the regarding the witnesses there?.

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  Thx, SBF, for the link/paper. Some thoughts:

  1. The social gospel stance of the two authors not only comes through clearly, but it's been published by George Fox Univ., which, while now officially claiming otherwise, is still tied to its Quaker roots. This is no accident.

  2. It was written in Jan. of 2021, just prior to the more complete invasion of Russia that has caused such consternation in Western Europe and the USA. Therefore, it still does not address the question in my OP: what is going on with the Witnesses there and their application of alternative service in an active war setting? It was one thing for the GB to theoretically green light an option like this for the R&F. It's quite another to apply it in wartime. Due to simple chronology the paper is useless on the issue.

  3. The authors do not seem to grasp how important certain NT teachings are to the GB and many R&F Witnesses, such as being no part of the world and getting out of Babylon the Great. The authors have this 'hopeful monster' view that somehow Witnesses are going to join the greater religious community in general. They might as well expect the pope to give up the mass!

  All that said, again, the link is appreciated. However, the org has seen fit to keep almost everything having to do with the Witnesses in the Ukraine during this war under tight wraps. Isn't that fact alone suspicious?

  Last month the Ukrainian government lowered the conscription age from 27 to 25. This fact will put pressure on more young Witnesses to leave the country or make them liable to this theoretical alternative service, whatever that is supposed to be.

  https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-conscription-mobilization-251058a942a253f3eaec2c53373adf03#:~:text=KYIV%2C%20Ukraine%20(AP)%20—,depleted%20ranks%20with%20new%20conscripts.
  
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  Any news on JWs in the Ukraine?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the war in the ukraine has been going on for 2+ years now, yet very little has been put forth by the org on how the witnesses are doing there.

  especially of interest would be just how the org has implemented their relatively new 'alternative service is ok' policy in lieu of real military service in a place where warfare is actually occurring.

  yet nothing is forthcoming from the gb on this matter, or any other issues, really.. does anyone know what's been going on the regarding the witnesses there?.

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  Thanks so much for these responses to my OP.

  Gorb, your link is especially appreciated. Its author Kostyantyn Berezhkosure looks like a Witness trying hard to not reveal that fact, or at least a heavy sympathizer. What in the world is "candidate of historical sciences"?

  But there is still no clue as to just what alternative service the GB has green-lighted for Witnesses who have chosen to stay in the Ukraine. The GB are very tight-lipped in-house about just what is going on there. It makes me wonder why. When Russia clamped down on the Witnesses there, the GB played it up, even sending high-raking organizational figures there, asking for letters from publishers. Why this opposite tactic here?
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  Any news on JWs in the Ukraine?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the war in the ukraine has been going on for 2+ years now, yet very little has been put forth by the org on how the witnesses are doing there.

  especially of interest would be just how the org has implemented their relatively new 'alternative service is ok' policy in lieu of real military service in a place where warfare is actually occurring.

  yet nothing is forthcoming from the gb on this matter, or any other issues, really.. does anyone know what's been going on the regarding the witnesses there?.

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  The war in the Ukraine has been going on for 2+ years now, yet very little has been put forth by the Org on how the Witnesses are doing there. Especially of interest would be just how the Org has implemented their relatively new 'alternative service is OK' policy in lieu of real military service in a place where warfare is actually occurring. Yet nothing is forthcoming from the GB on this matter, or any other issues, really.

  Does anyone know what's been going on the regarding the Witnesses there?