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Change in CA?

by careful in

having been out for a long time, i'm wondering in what year the change in circuit assemblies took place when they went from two days to just one.

anyone know for sure?.

thanks in advance..

careful

Having been out for a long time, I'm wondering in what year the change in circuit assemblies took place when they went from two days to just one. Anyone know for sure?

Thanks in advance.

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Explanation please on the change of the term "worldly"

by careful in

i've picked up from several replies to posts here that the org has stopped using the term "worldly" as it applies to people.

this must have happened after i left.

would someone be so kind as to explain the "rationale" behind this shift?

I've picked up from several replies to posts here that the org has stopped using the term "worldly" as it applies to people. This must have happened after I left. Would someone be so kind as to explain the "rationale" behind this shift? What is/are the preferred term(s) now for non-JWs? Just how is "worldly" used now? When dd the change occur?

Thanks.

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When did the recording of prayers stop? Why?

by careful in

i was just listening to the annual meeting recording posted here in another thread.

about half way through it, a prayer was offered.

i was wondering if the recorder (and i have no idea if this was a person making an official recording or just some independent person making one) was going to keep the recording device on for the prayer.

careful

I was just listening to the annual meeting recording posted here in another thread. About half way through it, a prayer was offered. I was wondering if the recorder (and I have no idea if this was a person making an official recording or just some independent person making one) was going to keep the recording device on for the prayer. He/she did not. I wondered this because I've noticed in current official recordings, both audio and video, they always turn off the recording during prayers, even in the more elaborately produced historical/biblical dramas. In other words, the policy covers more than just current meeting prayers.

This was not the case in the past. I remember, for example, hearing the concocted/imagined prayer of the Israelites in a drama on the first Passover and the exodus from Egypt. The prayer was even complete with some sort of "through the blood of Passover lamb" ending, no doubt intended to foreshadow the later "in Jesus' name" ending used today.

I have to wonder about the reason for all this since there are dozens of prayers recorded in scripture. Most of the Psalms are such; we have the actual prayers of Abraham, Moses, Elijah, Jeremiah, Nehemiah, Solomon, Daniel, Jesus, Peter, and others. So is this conspicuous policy of not recording prayers yet another attempt to be non-biblical or what?

Does anyone know when and/or why this policy changed?

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NWT from Greek/Hebrew into other languages?

by Counter-Watchtower in

does jw org claim to have translated the nwt into other languages from greek/hebrew?

because if they did claim that they would have to have biblical scholars in biblical greek/hebrew from every language, that would be a ton of ppl!

and take a lot of time!.

careful

If you are "sure that[']s what they did with the other languages," then why are you asking about it? What's the point of this post?

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2017 Annual Meeting

by Jules Saturn in

this just in from the 2017 annual meeting:.

1. watchtowers and awakes won't be released regularly, at least three watchtower and awakes per year.

6 magazines a year.. 2. a new book is being released: remain in god's love, more of an update like how they did for the what does the bible really teach book.

careful

Thanks suavojr.

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Do They Still do Door-to-Door as Much as Before?

by cofty in

since the advent of the trolleys do the majority of jws still go door to door like we used to?.

do they still have meetings for field service on sat mornings and sun afternoons where most head off to the local territory while one or two go to do trolley work or has the importance of door to door work reduced?.

with the reduction of printing wts and awakes what will they offer at the doors?.

careful

I recently moved from one community where I lived for two years. They operated a cart at the center of town on certain days. In those two years they came by my home at least 5 times, leaving tracts/invitations 4 times and catching me home once. A sister with her tablet in hand gave me a tract and invited me to a meeting. There was no attempt to engage me in a real conversation, and no passage of scripture was offered. Anyway, it seems they are still "covering the territory" door-to-door wise. That phrase, BTW, is still in use, as is seen in the letter to circuit overseers about merging congs that was posted two days ago here:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5119258054885376/instructions-merging-congregations

So it looks like the old D2D work is still on. Whether it is "as much as before" or not, who knows?

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2017 Annual Meeting

by Jules Saturn in

this just in from the 2017 annual meeting:.

1. watchtowers and awakes won't be released regularly, at least three watchtower and awakes per year.

6 magazines a year.. 2. a new book is being released: remain in god's love, more of an update like how they did for the what does the bible really teach book.

careful

suavojr, I tried that link with two different browsers and couldn't get connected.

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The Watchtower's Real Crisis

by JeffT in

jw
friends

when discussing the watchtowers financial problems, i've generally been of the opinion that they probably are not in a real financial crisis.

i've come to believe that money may be something of an issue, but its wrapped up in a much larger problem.

this came to me this morning when reading about the annual meeting.. i think the society's leadership is just plain out of ideas.

careful

JeffT,

Thanks for starting this thread. Morpheus, loved your description of SBF as beating "the doom and gloom drum"! LOL two or three times on that one.

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2017 Annual Meeting

by obarac in

on saturday, october 7.. any chance to get user name and password for stream?.

careful

OC,

Big drop in preaching activity. No more need to preach the "good news" when the message changes to one of "judgment" at the beginning of the GT.
No need to document growth. So no more yearbook.
The GT has started....we were told it would last summer when they gave us the basement video and warned that the message would change from good news to one of judgement. Tricky way to hide the decrease in numbers and justify all the legal problems they are encountering worldwide.

So how does that jibe with Matt. 24:44?

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Stupid, stupid nonsense in the October JW broadcast

by sir82 in

so in the october jw broadcast, there is a "morning worship" segment in which g. jackson goes to great lengths to explain how the term "those taking the lead" are not "leaders".. the terms are exactly equivalent, of course, but jackson, with a wink & smirk, pats himself on the back for his own cleverness on how different they really are.it's just so bizarrely absurd.. imagine if such tortured reasoning were applied to other areas..... -------------------------------------.

restaurant manager: i'm sorry, the only position we have open is for dishwasher.

applicant: that's insulting!

careful

I do not know, of course, but I suspect that the org has long taken this position due to Jesus' words at Matt. 23:10, where he says not to be called "leaders." The context there (verses 1-12), however, is using religious titles, not a condemnation of the word "leader" itself. By his time Jewish religious leaders had taken up the titles Rabbi and Abba ("Father"). That is what Jesus was saying not to do.