Posts by careful

a reliable source has informed me that a bethel contact has informed them that paul gillies - a london branch committee heavyweight - is moving to warwick to join the legal department there.

anyone else aware of this?.

during the recent court case in russia, he posed for a photograph with the gb member and the rest of the wt a-team..

careful

Has he started partaking at the Memorial?

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Joe attends Iglesia Ni Christo church service

by joe134cd in

well i have heard various comments about them on here, so last week i decided to do an internet search on them.

i was quite surprised to find there was an inc in my local area and ironically only meters away from the kh.. it was very interesting to say the least, and in the short time i was there i could quite understand how they get there reputation as a high control religion if not a cult.

in some respects i think they are probably more jw than the jws.. let me explain how my visit went.

careful

Enlightening:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iglesia_ni_Cristo

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What Will The Future Hold For Jehovah's Witnesses

by VW.org in

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as descibed by the title here is a link to reddit of a what i believe is a powerful post with heaps of information.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7ovq5o/watchtowers_decline_what_will_the_future_hold_for/?utm_source=reddit-android.

careful

Watchtower now embedding their pdfs with data so that they can issue subpoenas to isps to trace down culprits in the borg who are leaking this information.

Won't using a proxy get around that? Are the WT geniuses missing this or just counting on their leakers to be dumb enough not to employ a proxy?

SBF, unlike the SDAs any "member transfers" in the Witness world would entail a letter from one BOE to another which would not be done electronically, I think, at this time. Does anybody know the status on this?

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Did electrical energy evolve or was it created?

by atomant in

lt appears this topic has not been debated.energy has to come from something it doesn't come from nothing..

careful

Electrical energy occurs in nature—ever heard of Ben Franklin flying his kite? Lightning?

Evolution is a biological concept. The nervous systems in animals work by electricity. Are you confused? You need to explain what you mean.

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Mene Mene Tekel Parsins - The real leaks are starting

by berrygerry in

https://gizmodo.com/new-whistleblower-site-faithleaks-releases-confidential-1821799936.

careful

Thanks for the info. One has to wonder how all this is going to turn out.

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Prophecy question as hysteria sets in

by Isambard Crater in

a load of j.w's in my family and the congregation i attend as a pimo have been saying the end is very close because the anglo american world superpower is clearly still the king of the south, and russia is now clearly king of the north due to persecuting and banning the religion there and seizing property.. i've forgot what the religion used to teach and maybe still does, about the timing of all this king of north + south stuff, the attack on all religion by the u.n and then the attack on j.w's who will be left standing.

i mean, i thought jehovah was going to put it into the u.n's minds to ban or attack all other religions, then the attack on j.w's, but witnesses seem to think the end is so, so close because russia has banned them.. it's sad, as some dubs i know have sold their homes and made other big decisions so they can pioneer in these 'very last of the last days'..

careful

Fred Frantone:

Was the book of Daniel pretending to be written in the 6th century BC or was it simply about the 6th century BC? There's an important distinction to be made. If I were to write a book about a fictional prophet in the 17th century who predicted events in our day, I wouldn't necessarily need to pretend that the book itself was written back then as well.

Precisely. The fact that the org has just kept up the old rabbinic and then Protestant conservative view than Daniel had to have been written during the time of its action has little to do with reality. One might as well say that the gospels were all written immediately after the last thing they relate, the resurrection of Jesus. There is quite frequently a gap between a work's dramatic date and its date of authorship.

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Matthew 24:34 NEW UNDERSTANDING (January 2018 JW Broadcasting)

by Alfred in

david splane explains newest understanding" of 'this generation" adding a 3rd group.... .

careful

The most accurate thing on the chart: the three question marks!

It's quite interesting that Fred Franz (FWF) plays such a huge role in DS's thinking, particularly given how DS and GB II have jettisoned so much of FF's thinking during the past decade (the rev. NWT, types/anti-types, the ID of the F&DS). But then consistency has never been the org's strength, especially so with the current group in power. I'm sure that in their minds it seems quite consistent with a "chariot on the move"...

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The Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses of Namibia and legal problems

by TerryWalstrom in

the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses of namibia has asserted its right to be exempt as an "employer" for purposes of payment to those who work on its behalf, nor are they responsible (they claim) for filing any social security documents as to wages, hours worked, withholding, etc.in 2014, the congregation asked to be de-registered as such.____it didn't go so well.____on the 16 june 2014, authorities replied to the jw's request by confirming that the appellant is considered an employer in terms of the ss act and consequently should be registered with the employees’ compensation fund established by the employees’ compensation act, 1941, as well as having the order register its members with the maternity, sick leave and death benefit established by the ss act___a ping-pong protest and response commenced with multiple requests for clarification by the dubs and protestations and requests for appeal, etc.____authorities decided this matter was best handled by visiting the premises and investigating for themselves what goes on.____after the "visit" by authorities, nothing was offered by the dubs to change any minds.___the jw's continued to whine and protest and appeal, etc.____the authorities examined the congregation's appeal and made the following evaluation:== in the respondent’s listed grounds of opposition, it noted that the appeal filed by the appellant is not proper as it failed to complete the form 11 as contemplated in rule 17(2)(a) of the rules of this court==___jw's protested and appealed the appeal response which didn't appeal to them.___arguments continued until the following finding was released:the labour amendment act stipulates that:18 ‘for the purposes of this act or any other employment law, until the contrary is proved, an individual who works for or renders services to any other person, is presumed to be an employee of that other person, regardless of the form of the contract or the designation of the individual, if any one or more of the following factors is present:(list of factors attached)____blah-blah-blah-blahfinally:the ss act does not provide for de-registration of employers.

accordingly, logic follows that once an employer has been registered under this act, the obligations created in terms of this act ceases to exist only where the employer (who is a natural person) dies or becomes insolvent or is sequestrated or is liquidated or wound up (where an employer is a juristic person).

employees may be ‘de-registered’ under that employer in the event they die or their services have been terminated._______cut to the chase:accordingly, the appellant cannot pick and choose which laws should apply to them and which not.

careful

Thanks for the post, Terry, and, Ernest, for the link.

Likely the GB are afraid that this might set a precedent that other governments would learn of and then start taxing Witnesses elsewhere for SS. That's something they really do not want, not only for financial reasons but because it would potentially make the WTS liable to further government control, like demanding their financial records. That would be really scary for them.