Posts by careful

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$5.5 Million to be transferred to World Wide Work from Assembly Hall fund

by Sour Grapes in

a letter was read tonight in our kingdom hall that the money that the circuits in the indianapolis area had in savings to build a new assembly hall will now be transferred to the www to build kingdom halls in lands where they are needed and a new assembly hall for us will not be built.. we had a beautiful assembly hall near downtown indy that was paid for.

it was sold a couple of years ago.

we were promised a new assembly hall to be built in southern ohio near the indiana border but they can kiss that goodbye now.

careful

Might this be indicative of something else in the works? A reduction in the number and/or length of circuit assemblies? If they are still having 2 two-day ones per year, they might be going to only one. If they are still two-day affairs, perhaps they are going to only one-day assemblies. Either way, it would open up time slots for the existing assembly halls to accommodate twice the number they used to. It's the same principle they've been using for KH consolidation—why not do the same with AHs?

Then the money grab would be in harmony with everything else they normally do. They are certainly not going to give it back!

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The Harp of God book

by blownaway in

i am looking for the book the harp of god.

i am told it has some crazy passages in it.

can anyone put up some quotes of the book?

careful

SBF,

How about the idea that Fred Franz realized the spiritual Israel thing—and probably many other things that CTR had wrong—and finally won over JFR to his view? I suspect this was a major overlooked factor in WTS history of the post-CTR period.

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Attention!! There will be sex in heaven

by James Mixon in

well i thought i had heard it all but, the mercury columns "will christians enjoy sex in heaven" just hurt my brain.

how can god allow sexual relations in heaven without marriage??

in heaven there is no need for anyone to belong exclusively to another(wow!!!

careful

Sounds very Moslem, or else quite high on psychedelics.

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The Harp of God book

by blownaway in

i am looking for the book the harp of god.

i am told it has some crazy passages in it.

can anyone put up some quotes of the book?

careful

SBF:

I wonder what happened in just five years to so radically alter his view.

He/they embraced spiritual Israel as the fulfillment of OT prophecies.

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Consolidation of Bethel Big-Wigs Now?

by The Fall Guy in

a reliable source has informed me that a bethel contact has informed them that paul gillies - a london branch committee heavyweight - is moving to warwick to join the legal department there.

anyone else aware of this?.

during the recent court case in russia, he posed for a photograph with the gb member and the rest of the wt a-team..

careful

Has he started partaking at the Memorial?

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Joe attends Iglesia Ni Christo church service

by joe134cd in

well i have heard various comments about them on here, so last week i decided to do an internet search on them.

i was quite surprised to find there was an inc in my local area and ironically only meters away from the kh.. it was very interesting to say the least, and in the short time i was there i could quite understand how they get there reputation as a high control religion if not a cult.

in some respects i think they are probably more jw than the jws.. let me explain how my visit went.

careful

Enlightening:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iglesia_ni_Cristo

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What Will The Future Hold For Jehovah's Witnesses

by VW.org in

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as descibed by the title here is a link to reddit of a what i believe is a powerful post with heaps of information.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7ovq5o/watchtowers_decline_what_will_the_future_hold_for/?utm_source=reddit-android.

careful

Watchtower now embedding their pdfs with data so that they can issue subpoenas to isps to trace down culprits in the borg who are leaking this information.

Won't using a proxy get around that? Are the WT geniuses missing this or just counting on their leakers to be dumb enough not to employ a proxy?

SBF, unlike the SDAs any "member transfers" in the Witness world would entail a letter from one BOE to another which would not be done electronically, I think, at this time. Does anybody know the status on this?

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Did electrical energy evolve or was it created?

by atomant in

lt appears this topic has not been debated.energy has to come from something it doesn't come from nothing..

careful

Electrical energy occurs in nature—ever heard of Ben Franklin flying his kite? Lightning?

Evolution is a biological concept. The nervous systems in animals work by electricity. Are you confused? You need to explain what you mean.

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Mene Mene Tekel Parsins - The real leaks are starting

by berrygerry in

https://gizmodo.com/new-whistleblower-site-faithleaks-releases-confidential-1821799936.

careful

Thanks for the info. One has to wonder how all this is going to turn out.

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Prophecy question as hysteria sets in

by Isambard Crater in

a load of j.w's in my family and the congregation i attend as a pimo have been saying the end is very close because the anglo american world superpower is clearly still the king of the south, and russia is now clearly king of the north due to persecuting and banning the religion there and seizing property.. i've forgot what the religion used to teach and maybe still does, about the timing of all this king of north + south stuff, the attack on all religion by the u.n and then the attack on j.w's who will be left standing.

i mean, i thought jehovah was going to put it into the u.n's minds to ban or attack all other religions, then the attack on j.w's, but witnesses seem to think the end is so, so close because russia has banned them.. it's sad, as some dubs i know have sold their homes and made other big decisions so they can pioneer in these 'very last of the last days'..

careful

Fred Frantone:

Was the book of Daniel pretending to be written in the 6th century BC or was it simply about the 6th century BC? There's an important distinction to be made. If I were to write a book about a fictional prophet in the 17th century who predicted events in our day, I wouldn't necessarily need to pretend that the book itself was written back then as well.

Precisely. The fact that the org has just kept up the old rabbinic and then Protestant conservative view than Daniel had to have been written during the time of its action has little to do with reality. One might as well say that the gospels were all written immediately after the last thing they relate, the resurrection of Jesus. There is quite frequently a gap between a work's dramatic date and its date of authorship.