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US Banks threatening the gun industry—hitting them where it hurts
by careful in
1. social
2. current
an interesting development.

the gun industry is scrambling for new protections.. https://abcnews.go.com/us/wirestory/gun-industry-sees-banks-threat-2nd-amendment-56119503.
careful

An interesting development. The gun industry is scrambling for new protections.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/gun-industry-sees-banks-threat-2nd-amendment-56119503
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How to spot awake JW at a convention
by Akid48 in
1. jw
2. experiences
i cant spot one to save my life, so i wanted to now if any one could me figure out how..
careful

After I'd grown a beard and gone to an RC, I noticed a few people who were friendly to me by their facial expression. One young bro was an attendant 'guarding' some door during the sessions. Obviously he was freed from listening to the program. As I walked around taking a break from the talks, he made a point of smiling at me. Most people who saw me made a point of not looking at me directly. I suspect he was probably PIMO.
So you could find some man with a beard and discreetly follow him around, watching for the few who smiled at him. Then you could drop a line to them like, 'I need a break from the talks. How do you like this guarding job?'
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LEAK: 2016 Hong Kong Branch Dedication [1 to 9]
by Fay Dehr in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
2016 hong kong branch meeting [1 of 9].

https://rutube.ru/video/d8ccb9410edfbc95542b252bc67c173a/.

2016 hong kong branch meeting [2 of 9].
careful

I say thanks too. A lot to listen to here.
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Removing scriptures and numbering
by carla in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
recently there was a thread https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5596141447020544/nwt-1984-vs-nwt-2013.

and kairos mentioned the following-.

i am baffled that john 8:1-12 was removed from their bible.it's a verse that makes judging and shunning impossible if you claim to be christian.".
careful

carla,
You ask a good question. There are only a handful of modern (non-KJV) translations that a householder would likely have. Among these are the TNIV (Today's NIV, revised in 2005) and the NRSV (1989). Both note that these verses, John 7:53 to 8:11, are not the product of the original gospel writer. The former sets the text off a bit with an introductory note and in different font and smaller type:

The latter uses double brackets and a note:

The revised NWT is not the first to simply "jump verses," or just not print the story at all. The Twentieth Century NT, J. B. Rotherham, Charles B. Williams, and Goodspeed's translation do as well. Here's the last mentioned:

Most other translations just leave verses out when a smaller block of text is involved, as for example, at Matt 23:14, Luke 17:36, Acts 8:37.
In all these cases the issue is the same. The chapters and verse numbers were added late in the Bible's history, in the late medieval period. By that time the Greek text had reached its highest point of corruption with the most additions and alterations. The KJV was based on such a Greek text. As time has passed since 1611, knowledge of what was likely the original text has improved and that has led to recognizing several passages as not original. The small examples immediately above as well as the large examples in John 8 and the end of Mark are all cases in point.
Therefore, it's better not to say that these verse are "removed" or "missing" but that they never belonged in the first place.
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Jesus with an iPad. Really?
by punkofnice in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
at a local meeting, one of the elders said that if jesus were on the earth today 'you can be sure' he would be preaching by showing videos on a tablet.. i kid you not.. i wonder what videos he'd be playing?.

obviously this was the elder's own pet theory.

wasn't it?.
careful

scratchme,
When he lived, he preached using the latest methodology available in his time.
Really? What latest methodology was that?
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Where the Watchtower missed the boat on Blood
by Lee Elder in
1. watchtower
2. medical
to really understand the jehovah's witnesses policy on blood, you have to understand the fundamental mistake watchtower leaders made when the policy was first developed.. http://ajwrb.org/the-historical-perspective/the-evolution-of-the-watchtower-blood-policy.
careful

Thanks for the info. It looks like Freddie Franz was looking for anything he could find that would equate in his mind transfusing blood with eating it. It's not at all unusual for him and other WTS "researchers" to look for support for a notion they already have concluded before they began their "research." That is still the org's mentality. "We have the truth. Let's find anything we can to support it."
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Child trafficking issues in India
by MaxPayne in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
this is the message that was posted on the jw inbox announcements tab.

i have copy pasted it as it was.

if anyone from india has any information related to this, please do share.. regards.. urgent: child trafficking accusations.
careful

So then in normal parlance it's an extended family under one roof?
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Child trafficking issues in India
by MaxPayne in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
this is the message that was posted on the jw inbox announcements tab.

i have copy pasted it as it was.

if anyone from india has any information related to this, please do share.. regards.. urgent: child trafficking accusations.
careful

Excuse my ignorance but what are "joint families"?
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Australians deadlest animals just for our American friends
by MightyV8 in
1. social
2. humour
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australians deadlest animals.

https://youtu.be/mrrao_vg_k4.
careful

Excellent. Already forwarded the link on to others. The prez of the NRA should get a copy.
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Child trafficking issues in India
by MaxPayne in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
this is the message that was posted on the jw inbox announcements tab.

i have copy pasted it as it was.

if anyone from india has any information related to this, please do share.. regards.. urgent: child trafficking accusations.
careful

MP's post on the topic 3 months ago.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4568648837496832/child-abuse-issues-india
blankspace's reply is worth noting. Of course, it can't be confirmed but sounds genuine. The poor girl in the final experience is a real tragic case.
Might MP's post above be the org's reaction to the worldwide crackdown on child sexual abuse that is beginning to filter even into places where it still goes on heavily like India?
In the words "The branch office is aware of this situation and will be happy to help you respond if you are approached about this matter by local authorities such as the police," surely the branch office being "aware of this situation" has more meaning that meets the eye. They are aware of the real history of the problem there in India as elsewhere and are scrambling to prepare for a potential exposé and consequent loss of public respect.