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  Why didn't I leave back then???

  by silentbuddha in

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  2. experiences

  sunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.

  he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.

  swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.

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  sparky1: "Lyman Swingle swore like a pirate. The language he used would get any other rank and file Witness disfellowshipped. I still liked him, though."

  silentbuddha: "was it just me or did it seem that brothers who were known as "heavy" often curse and do things that would shock people just for the fun of it[?] I remember Br. Sydlik used to use foul language on a regular basis as well."
  

  Is it without point that in his CofC book Ray Franz portrays both Swingle and Sydlik as liberals who shared his viewpoints on matters that came before the GB and in running the org? They liked to side with Ray in discussions and voting.
  

  This has got to be connected…somehow…
  

  In the highest echelons of WT land, swearing makes one liberal! Or liberals like to swear at Bethel. Hmmmm…

  SB, you have begun a thread that has generated considerable response, like SBF's or those of Leolaia in days past. Congrats!
  
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  Archbisop jailed in Australia

  by zeb in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-03/archbishop-wilson-sentenced/9883610.

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  The article says the sentence is to 12 months of home detention, not jail, and that some of the victims were disappointed in that.
  
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  There is Important Dutch News: majority in Dutch Parliament require an investigation into child abuse within JWs

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there is important dutch news: majority in dutch parliament require an investigation into child abuse within jwshttp://translate.google.com/translate?u=https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nederland/politiek/tweede-kamer-eist-onafhankelijk-onderzoek-naar-misbruik-jehovahs-getuigen&hl=en&langpair=auto%7cen&tbb=1&ie=utf-8.

  the lower house requires independent investigation into abuse of jehovah's witnesses .

  june 28, 2018 18:56 .

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  redpilltwice said:

  They even had a visit from a governing body member to inform them about the matter.

  Whoever came out probably reinforced that "we are under attack from the wild beast. The end is near. Do whatever we say. Obey and be blessed." It would be interesting to know just how many Dutch Witnesses believe that line and how many are dubious about it and know of the coverup.
  
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  A Message to Active Elders Lurking on JWN

  by 00DAD in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there are really only a couple of reasons an active elder would be lurking here on jwn.. .

  [if !supportlists]i. your ever growing doubts about the organization have led you here, or.

  [if !supportlists]ii.

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  I'll bite on this old post. How many remember committeechairman, so active here for several years? He used to say that he came here to get the inside story, that org news would be "published" here even before he got official word from inside the org.

  To refresh anyone's memory:

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/250543/committee-chairman-tell-us-about-yourself
  

  Unfortunately he hasn't posted much any more since his family and life fell apart—so sad. His last post was 3 months ago and he was contemplating suicide:

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5691345235607552/how-precious-governing-body-mole-double-agent-5th-colunm-sabatoge-watchtower-organization
  

  I guess I should PM him.

  Anyway, he is testimony that elders do come here while still in with inquisitive motives and who are quite awake to the org's corruption.
  
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  Book of Revelation

  by Whynot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the things that really bothered me is how most of the book of revelation isn't understood by most jws.

  most of the trumpets were already sounded many decades ago, is that still right?

  it seems like most jws just look the other way.

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  Can anyone understand the book of Revelation?
  
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  baptism photo

  by stan livedeath in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i found this photo on a facebook group--just had to grab and share.......look at the name sign in the background!.

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  NC,

  A great laugh! What can Tony say? At least the "new brother" doesn't have tight pants on! Love Photoshop...
  
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  US Banks threatening the gun industry—hitting them where it hurts

  by careful in

  1. social
  2. current

  an interesting development.

  the gun industry is scrambling for new protections.. https://abcnews.go.com/us/wirestory/gun-industry-sees-banks-threat-2nd-amendment-56119503.

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  An interesting development. The gun industry is scrambling for new protections.
  

  https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/gun-industry-sees-banks-threat-2nd-amendment-56119503
  
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  How to spot awake JW at a convention

  by Akid48 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i cant spot one to save my life, so i wanted to now if any one could me figure out how..

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  After I'd grown a beard and gone to an RC, I noticed a few people who were friendly to me by their facial expression. One young bro was an attendant 'guarding' some door during the sessions. Obviously he was freed from listening to the program. As I walked around taking a break from the talks, he made a point of smiling at me. Most people who saw me made a point of not looking at me directly. I suspect he was probably PIMO.

  So you could find some man with a beard and discreetly follow him around, watching for the few who smiled at him. Then you could drop a line to them like, 'I need a break from the talks. How do you like this guarding job?'
  
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  LEAK: 2016 Hong Kong Branch Dedication [1 to 9]

  by Fay Dehr in

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  2. beliefs

  2016 hong kong branch meeting [1 of 9].

  https://rutube.ru/video/d8ccb9410edfbc95542b252bc67c173a/.

  2016 hong kong branch meeting [2 of 9].

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  I say thanks too. A lot to listen to here.
  
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  Removing scriptures and numbering

  by carla in

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  2. beliefs

  recently there was a thread https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5596141447020544/nwt-1984-vs-nwt-2013.

  and kairos mentioned the following-.

  i am baffled that john 8:1-12 was removed from their bible.it's a verse that makes judging and shunning impossible if you claim to be christian.".

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  carla,

  You ask a good question. There are only a handful of modern (non-KJV) translations that a householder would likely have. Among these are the TNIV (Today's NIV, revised in 2005) and the NRSV (1989). Both note that these verses, John 7:53 to 8:11, are not the product of the original gospel writer. The former sets the text off a bit with an introductory note and in different font and smaller type:

  
  

  The latter uses double brackets and a note:

  
  

  The revised NWT is not the first to simply "jump verses," or just not print the story at all. The Twentieth Century NT, J. B. Rotherham, Charles B. Williams, and Goodspeed's translation do as well. Here's the last mentioned:

  
  

  Most other translations just leave verses out when a smaller block of text is involved, as for example, at Matt 23:14, Luke 17:36, Acts 8:37.
  

  In all these cases the issue is the same. The chapters and verse numbers were added late in the Bible's history, in the late medieval period. By that time the Greek text had reached its highest point of corruption with the most additions and alterations. The KJV was based on such a Greek text. As time has passed since 1611, knowledge of what was likely the original text has improved and that has led to recognizing several passages as not original. The small examples immediately above as well as the large examples in John 8 and the end of Mark are all cases in point.
  

  Therefore, it's better not to say that these verse are "removed" or "missing" but that they never belonged in the first place.