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  Funeral Fashion

  by ThinkerBelle in

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  i have a funeral to attend for a non jw family member and the jdub family member reminded me that i should not wear black.

  for the life of me, i can't recall where this belief came from in jw teachings and i'm born in.

  is there something in print or is that just a personal opinion belief?

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  Thanks, Atlantis. You taught me something new today.
  
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  "Be Strong!"---SAD

  by eyeuse2badub in

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  attended the sad yesterday with my wife.

  bethel speaker flown in to california which made it "special".

  (his talks were infomercial bs, but at least he was a good speaker.

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  Yes, it's always "the the best assembly ever!" but after 3 weeks pass, if you ask them what the talks' points were, they cannot even remember. What pabulum.

  One of the reasons for the expenses is to pay for the Bethel speaker's airfare, but then that was certainly not $11,500. The rest is part of the money-making scheme.
  
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  Marijuana and JWs

  by Thomasdam in

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  so where does the cult stand on marijuana.

  my wife just visited her parents who are jws and her dad who knows nothing about it said it was a gateway drug.

  he may have heard it on the news but i doubt it.

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  Perhaps pot fragments, like beard fragments (mustaches) are acceptable now? Whatever the case, I just cannot see Morris and Splane lighting up, or even listening to Cheech and Chong!
  
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  WATCHTOWER has posted a $40,000,000 bond !

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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  watctower has posted a $40,000,000 bond following montana's upholding of the nunez v watchtower verdict of 2018. punitive damages have been upheld, and wt has purchased the bond from travelers insurance (35m+ interest)-montana sc will rule later this year on the appeal.. .

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  Don't know about Morph, but for those poor souls like me who don't know what a supersedeas bond is, here's help:

  "A supersedeas bond, also known as a defendant's appeal bond, is a type of surety bond that a court requires from an appellant who wants to delay payment of a judgment until the appeal is over."
  

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersedeas_bond
  

  So it looks like they're putting up the cash in order to keep the appeals process going. Given the courts' record elsewhere, they may well be fighting a losing battle appeal-wise. They sure do love those legal delays, don't they?

  Thanks for your work Zing!
  
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  Britain's Sharia Courts Look Strangely Familiar

  by Sea Breeze in

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  up to 85 of these sharia law courts operate in britain.

  creepy!.

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  nicolaou, spot on observation. A common ancestry indeed. The Orthodox Jews have their private, religious courts. Then various "Christian" groups do: Roman Catholic and certain conservative Protestant sects like JWs, Amish, and others. Then the Moslems. They all have a common origin in the Old Testament/Hebrew Bible.
  
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  Latest on Greg Stafford

  by Nitty-Gritty in

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  for all those who know who greg stafford is/was.

  the former "apostate/apologist and author of three dissertations and other books, is on page 2 of the march 2016 meeting work book.

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-meeting-workbook/march-2016-mwb/meeting-schedule-mar7-13/welcome-memorial-guests/.

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  His emphasis seems to have changed. Now he's got some small group of followers that he appears to be devoted to shepherding. Earlier he was pretty much just into theology. It's kind of ironic because he's now using electronic media to do his small group shepherding. Therefore, whether intended of not, he's imitating the WTS.

  
  
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  The Atlantic Magazine: A Secret Database of Child Abuse

  by Pants of Righteousness in

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  i haven't seen reference to this article on the forum, so would like to post a link to an article that was published by the atlantic on 22 march 2019.. .

  https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2019/03/the-secret-jehovahs-witness-database-of-child-molesters/584311/.

  only factual matter that i could correct is the number of gb members at the time of the australian royal commission - i'm pretty sure it was 7 at that time..

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  Thanks for this post, PofR. Care to share the story behind your nic? Sounds like it might be fascinating.
  

  The Atlantic article provides considerable background for some of the things that have been happening on the opposition front recently. That KH break-in in Mass., the theft of the secret documents from it, and their posting on reddit and elsewhere, all help explain things like the GB recently telling the WTS lawyers to go after those posting them, as well as the fatihleaks response:

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6255460664475648/truth-transparency-foundation

  There is a lot more to this story, and the Atlantic article writer helps fill in the gaps.

  I will always remember something a CO said soon after Ray Franz's first book came out. Speaking of GB 1 then in power, he observed, "They're running scared right now. I've never seen anything like it." Now it's GB 2's turn. And scared they are, afraid that some of the truth about their widespread lying and bungling of "governance" will be exposed to the faithful. If that were to occur on a major scale where the average Witness would have to see it and deal with it, the results would be devastating within the org.

  The GB's losing control—their greatest fear!

  One other factual matter correction: the old interpretation of the generation not passing away was not "new" after 1975. It had been around long before that.
  
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  Like the Org, a Proestant Store Going Electronic

  by careful in

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  lifeway books is closing its brick-and-mortar stores and going exclusively electronic.

  it's also cutting back on its publishing in print.. https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2019/march/lifeway-to-close-all-170-christian-stores.html.

  this somewhat supports what sbf has been saying as to modern wts history—at least it's a common pattern.

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  LifeWay Books is closing its brick-and-mortar stores and going exclusively electronic. It's also cutting back on its publishing in print.

  https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2019/march/lifeway-to-close-all-170-christian-stores.html
  

  This somewhat supports what SBF has been saying as to modern WTS history—at least it's a common pattern. Bits: "due to declining sales and financial pressures"; "Our ... strategy for the future will be a greater focus on digital channels, which are experiencing strong growth"; "adjusting to this new reality".

  One thing they only touch on is the loss of person-to-person contact. I'm reminded of the parallel in Witness preaching: just make an "electronic placement" instead of engaging a householder in a personal discussion. Is much of so-called "Christianity" going down this impersonal path? How unlike the biblical pattern!
  
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  JW Convicted of Killing Mother and Unborn Baby

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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  https://www.pottsmerc.com/news/man-convicted-of-killing-cheltenham-girlfriend-and-unborn-child-judge/article_3ad35162-3fa0-11e9-9998-0be53da6ea6f.html.

  peace.

  zing..

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  Thank you, Simon. Some people here are so determined to blame JWs as a whole for anything that might be even remotely connected to them that they let their hostility interfere with a sense of objectivity. That is sad because it plays into the hands of the org. The org can claim, "See how biased the apostates are!" Valid criticism for poor teachings and behavior is one thing, but just participating in JW-bashing at all costs is not fruitful for helping others see the real problems.
  
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  My mom

  by vienne in

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  i'm annie, rachael's daughter.

  mom died yesterday.

  i can't find a way to delete her account here.

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  Annie, I add my sympathies as well. Rachael and I corresponded a few times, both on topics related to her research and her personal life. I do not know the details of her illness, but she seemed to have lived an active, full life. It may be hard now to appreciate this, but in the coming days you will more and more. It's part of those stages of grief. Best wishes in dealing with all this.