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  The time periods of Daniel

  by Leolaia in

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  one of the most perplexing puzzles of daniel is the differing way the author referred to the length of time the rebuilt temple would be defiled during the persecution of antiochus epiphanes iv (175-163 bc).

  historically, the period is known with some precision; the heathen altar (the "abomination of desolation" of daniel and 1 maccabees) was installed on 15 chislev 167 bc and the temple was rededicated on 25 chislev 164 bc -- a period of almost exactly 3 years (1 maccabees 1:57, 4:52).

  the desolation of jerusalem however began some several months prior to this (cf.

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  Wow, resurrecting one of Leoaia's old posts. A blast from the past of the good old days at JWD/JWN. Thx, smiddy!
  
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  Watchtower Resource!

  by Atlantis in

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  watchtower resource.. .

  the watchtower is selling more than just kingdom halls.. .

  https://wtresource.com/ .

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  Atlantis and Solzhenitsyn,

  Thanks for the additional links. They really are trying to hide under the wire in some of these sites. More indications of their financial woes from all the lawsuits to be paid. How afraid of truth they are! Years and years of deception, etc. catching up with them in the courts, so they have to stoop to this to generate more funds for their secret pay outs. What a sad situation.
  
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  Mom's History Writing

  by vienne in

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  my family and i want to thank everyone who made kind comments about mom.

  she would feel flattered.

  we miss her constantly.. you may be interested in the rough draft chapter posted on the project blog.

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  Double thanks, Annie. I hope healing is taking place with you and your family.

  
  
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  Watchtower Resource!

  by Atlantis in

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  watchtower resource.. .

  the watchtower is selling more than just kingdom halls.. .

  https://wtresource.com/ .

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  Wow, they are selling whatever they can! I wonder how much of this was donated...
  
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  Can This be Verified?

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  can this be verified?

  just speculation so far, so i was just wondering.. .

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/bawoeu/getting_rid_of_the_literature_counter_all_together/ .

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  They must still have a MS who stocks the thing. What do they now call him? The cabinet servant?
  
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  Anthony Morris- Military records are now available under FOIA

  by Bleep Bloop in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if you've wondered what tony morris' original last name was, or if he really served in the military, i put up a youtube video today summarizing many of these details.

  my goal is not to doxx him or his family, but to put some meat on the bones of his life story article, using available public records.. thanks to the community here that gave me the impetus to dig into this.

  and i can definitively say that, contrary to popular opinion, his last name was not esposito haha.

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  Welcome, BB, to JWD. That's quite a first post.

  First, thanks for your research and work—that was no small task!

  A few thoughts and observations:

  1. Could you put together a condensed version? You would get more people watching it if it were 30-35 minutes rather than nearly 1 hour and 19 minutes.

  2. Why did you choose AM II/III and not some other GB member? Is it because more public records are available for him than the others?

  3. Any plans to do this with other GB members?
  

  4. Some thoughts on AM's military/Viet Nam service. At that time an enlistment was 4 years of active duty whereas the draft was 2 years. Most draftees went into the army rather than the other services (but admittedly in practice that was somewhat arbitrary). I know one veteran who came back from SE Asia on a huge Medivac flight, a C-140 flying hospital, with men being operated on during the flight over the Pacific, some even dying on board. He said that about half the patients on board were diseased rather than being injured in battle. That's how common getting sick over there was. Some had come down with the very diseases they had been vaccinated against before leaving the USA. Others had diseases that were never fully diagnosed. AM worked in a hospital and was exposed to a large variety of sick patents. Even today in a hospital in far healthier conditions than one in a tropical jungle, nurses, orderlies, and techs often become ill from treating patients, and patients come down with diseases from fellow patients. So I think it's unwise to conjecture why AM became ill.

  On a related but really different point, if AM had not wound up sick, we might be able to conclude that he was drafted rather than having enlisted, given his 2 years of active service (but he could have been medically discharged as an enlistee). However, if his being an elistee were the case, we might expect a disability from the VA, perhaps a partial one, common during Viet Nam and still practiced today. Furthermore, the US military is not eager to discharge someone who has two years left on their commitment. After all, they have invested thousands of dollars in that one's training. In sum then, it looks more like AM was a draftee than an enlistee, IMO.

  Thanks again for your work.
  
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  Do old time present day active JW`s genuinely believe in overlapping generations ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  2. beliefs

  for the life of me i can not come to terms with old timers in the "truth" who could swallow this interpretation of scripture about an overlapping generation .. when jesus spoke about "this generation" .

  are their any real bible students among younger ones any more ?.

  here are 3 bible scriptures that confirm a generation is approximately 40- 50 years long give or take a few years .. 1. matt:1 :17 abraham born 2016-18 bc jesus born 2 bc approx.

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  As for any questions on this point, you'll have to ask David Splane directly. No one else knows. It's amazing how he got this past the majority of the GB at the meeting(s) where they discussed it. It's evidence of how desperate they are to "deal with" this passage in Matthew.

  Perhaps in the end someone on the GB just said, to use blondie's point, "Well, it doesn't really matter whether they understand it or not. They are so loyal that they'll just believe whatever they are told to believe."
  
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  Beroean Pickets- please offer encouragement

  by Lightgrowsbrighter in

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  2. friends

  for many who have left jw.org, there is still a spiritual need and faith in the bible.

  beroean pickets is one group/website where serious bible research and commentary, weekly critical reviews of wt studies, as well expose's of flawed wt opinion/doctrine- all backed by the bible- can be considered.

  this vast amount of work and research is all done by just a small group of our volunteer brothers and sisters.

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  I agree with nowwhat? I'm surprised too that it's taken years for them to clamp down on dissenters like Eric from within the ranks, especially those who attract others who are also in-house.

  Of course, this will have no negative repercussions in the world at large, and the org will keep going just fine.
  
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  More Crazy Cart Witnessing

  by HappyDad in

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  2. friends

  i just saw this picture on a jw facebook page.

  i'm just shaking my head at what lengths they will go to just to count time.

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  SERIOUSLY out-of-uniform! What would Gerrit Lösch think?
  
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  Calif. Senator Hill's bill, SB 360, passed Public Safety Committee - It removes penitential privilege exemption

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  california senator jerry hill's bill, sb 360, passed the public safety committee at the capitol building in sacramento, california, this morning without opposition.

  out of eight senators in the committee, three senators excused themselves, and five voted for the bill.

  http://calchannel.granicus.com/mediaplayer.php?view_id=7&clip_id=6064&fbclid=iwar2adhuxflh8m6qz9nxjqaoulyyxyahx6b0wctzijphaajav_9dnddpq29i move the time marker to 57:20 where the discussion of sb 360 starts.. senate bill 360 requires clergy to report child abuse and neglect under any circumstancess.

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  Thanks for this info. It will be interesting to watch its course. I wonder if groups like the RC church would oppose it or even seek to have its constitutionality questioned.