Wow, are Witness children running out of school classrooms in reality?
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Super Duper Awkward
by Slidin Fast indid anyone else find the teen section on the meeting tonight massively cringeworthy?
i saw two kids who will be laughing stocks for life after their world wide exposure.
complete exploitation in my opinion, unforgivable..
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Quality of jw.org translation?
by Wonderment insomeone asked the following question to an artificial intelligence (ai) website:.
how does the most translated website ensure accuracy of translations?.
answer: .
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Wonderment, in answer to your OP:
Doesn't AI just cull through all the info that's out there electronically? Who else would put something out there re: translation of WTS in-house pubs except the organization itself?
Doubtless too, that's the case with the criticisms of the NWT since there are so many that have either appeared on the web to begin with or been entered into cyberspace from print media.
Thx PetrW for the info on those two passages. I know nothing about Czech so cannot comment on what role that may play in the two instances you point out, but surely your statement "Translation from translation tends to degrade the quality of the text" is spot on. In practical terms the organization has little other choice if they want to maintain the control they have over all the R&F. Even the GB member(s) who did the 2013 English revision had no real knowledge of Hebrew and Greek, so the publishers who translated that English revision into other modern languages likely would not either. Once Fred Franz died, such knowledge up top died, and anyone lower down who might have such knowledge must still defer to the authority structure, even if such a person might see faults in translation, whether in in-house pubs or the NWT itself.
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Murderous Jehovah's Witness bludgeoned female customer before leading meeting. Spiritual paradise?
by Balaamsass2 in1/31/2024 in the strange but true category.
confused holy spirit appoints killer servant.
"" a twisted jehovah's witness bludgeoned a woman he rowed with over incomplete building works to death with a hammer, then merrily whistled as he packed up his tools and went to lead a service at the church where they met.
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Was Ms Gordon a sister in the cong.?
I wonder whether he was DFed or jumped at the chance to use the "new light" and just claim, "I'm repentant."
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Spiritual Paradise? Jehovah's Witness cons JW seniors out of life savings.
by Balaamsass2 in3/28/2024 central california coast.
found guilty of $1.2 million scam targeting seniors.
ex-insurance agent brett e. lovett convicted of fraud, elder abuse, grand theft, and money laundering".
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Thx BA2, for the OP, and you others for the good comments!
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Waiting On Jehovah First Mentioned?
by Ron.W. inyes, waiting on jehovah for him to handle a problem/ doctrine etc.. when did the jw's first start saying that?
they've been saying it as long as i can remember.. what scriptures do they trot out to back that teaching up?
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SBF:
And often quoted to “show a waiting attitude”.
Micah 7:7
But as for me, it is for Jehovah that I shall keep on the lookout. I will show a waiting attitude for the God of my salvation. My God will hear me.
Also sometimes used in the same context is Psalm 4:4:
Be agitated, but do sin. Have your say in your heart, upon your bed, and keep silent.
Ps. 37:7:
Keep silent before Jehovah and wait longingly for him.
and elsewhere in the Psalms (42:5, 11; 43:11; 62:5; 71:14; 119:49; 131:3, in addition to blondie's ref. above). It's a regular theme there.
I can't help but think of the parallel that whatever ancient Israelites are really responsible for writing the Psalms (no Fred Franz fantasies here), they were bummed out about the corruption that they had to endure "up top" like so many Witnesses (and ex-JWs) are today.
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In answer to the original post: come join us! We'll tell you what to believe, what to think, what to do, what to wear, how to groom yourself, how to spend your time, how not to entertain yourself, and most importantly — never to talk to anyone who criticizes us!
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When JW.org drops 607BCE...
by Nathan Natas inprobably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.
in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?
" by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.
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It will be interesting to see whether the now in-process agenda will indeed move beyond FS time reporting and dress & grooming into doctrine. When the 2013 rev. NWT came out, there was plenty of hidden rejection of FF's ideas scattered throughout the revision, so in some sense, doctrinal change had already begun a decade plus ago.
Most R&F Witnesses could care less about doctrine and any kind of "in-depth Bible study" especially about prophecy. That's what the 607/1914 Gentiles Times madness is all about. So if the current GB changes that, I suspect there would be little negative reaction from the R&F. In fact, there might very well be relief: "Thank God I don't have to attempt to teach that anymore!"
There would probably be serious opposition to the idea from spacy Splane who still seems enamored by prophecy (evidently the only one on the GB still caught up in that), but with the rest for a change on 607 etc, and doofus Splane witnessing what happened to his erstwhile buddy Tony Morris who stood up against the majority will, he's likely had the fear of Jehovah put into him against fighting what the bulk of the GB want as their agenda.
I repeat, it will be interesting to watch what develops here.
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Will Watchtower and Jehovah's Witnesses suffer the same fate as the Catholic Church?
by Balaamsass2 innorthern california, 4/2/2024.
"sacramento catholic diocese files for bankruptcy reorganization in wake of abuse lawsuits".
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sacramento-catholic-diocese-files-bankruptcy-160421282.html.
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Fascinating. Thanks.
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Beautiful photos
by LoveUniHateExams inso, i thought i'd start a thread about any beautiful photos of places you've been to, or just beautiful photos.. i'll go first .... .
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copyright: daniel burton.. this is bøur, a little village in the faeroe islands, population 74.. i've never been there but i'd love to visit one day.
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Fitting pics for springtime transition.
1. Frozen home on Lake Ontario.
2. Snowdrops, the first flower of spring when such ice is all gone.
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This Week's BS Study. Shylock?
by Slidin Fast inlast night the subject of simony reared its head.
there was a picture (artists impression) of the event resembling a bunch of clean-cut americans in fancy dress busy performing or observing miracles.
in the foreground offering a bribe to join in is simon.
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Is this the same pic? "resembling a bunch of clean-cut Americans in fancy dress busy performing or observing miracles"? Well, one man in the background is "clean cut"-- perhaps picturing a shaved Roman or Egyptian? But the account takes place in Samaria. The "clean cut" rest in the background are females.
The Simon portrait does look like a typical medieval Jew as pictured by some anti-Jewish gentile artist from the past. It's certainly stereotypical of a bygone era.
Some scholars think Simon may have been a Gnostic, so the pic's creator may have that in mind. But Gnostics probably looked like "normal folks."