Ouch!
It's a long tough road out of hell. Glad you made it and sad for those that didn't.
I would immediately call the police. Just to give a warning to those parents.
long time no see.. so, since i last posted on here, jws drove my sister to attempt suicide again (she failed, but it was close) and drove my close childhood friend to actually commit suicide.
i too kmy sister in and helped her recover.
i think she's going to pull through.
Ouch!
It's a long tough road out of hell. Glad you made it and sad for those that didn't.
I would immediately call the police. Just to give a warning to those parents.
i came across a great quote.... the distinction between cult and religion lies squarely in how those leaving or those wanting to leave are treated.. hits the nail on the head for me!.
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Since I just posted in the other one I might as well post here.
I remember when I was a witness seeing a list of the defining characteristics of a cult. I was thinking as I went down the list, "well....yeah....but there's a reason we do that." Ahhh, the good old days of cognitive dissonance.
trying to develop a good strategy for relatives still partially indoctrinated by this despicable inhumane cult.
i researched their own material and i found some good info on how they don't mind control anyone.
the following unedited information was sourced from their february 15, 1994 watchtower p. 5-7. i've highlighted some sentences that we all know are lies and a distortion of the reality of their community:.
So they say they aren't a cult, eh?
Interesting that one of the defining characteristics of a cult is they start defining words how they see fit.
i have been looking and finally saw the logo on the kh sign............. .
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When I drove by the one here recently, I'm pretty sure I saw one on each of the two fenceposts.
i've posted these years ago and was reminiscing, so i thought i would share the laugh with you again.. top 10 signs that jehovah's witnesses want to disfellowship you:.
10. there's two guys in suits staying all night outside your home in a four-door sedan.. 9. an elder you spoke to on the phone calls and asks you to repeat what you said the other day, but asks you to speak slowly and clearly.. 8. suddenly, jw friends stop by and ask an awful lot of the same questions.. 7. your laptop computer was moved, left on, or is missing.. 6. you left your car unlocked, it was thoroughly searched by someone but absolutely nothing is missing including your gps which was searched too.. 5. your boss asks if you are in trouble with the law or someone, stating some really polite men were asking about you and left some "tracts.".
4. someone picked up the cigarette butts around your back porch.. 3. the bartender at your favorite nightspot asks if you have ever before seen the guys in the corner booth that have been ordering "cokes" all evening and pulling out a camera everytime you order a beer.. 2. you receive registered mail and you already served on a jury this year.. 1. your jw mother who finally had accepted that you will never go back starts begging you to either go back to the kingdom hall or move with no forwarding address.. .
11. There's a local needs talk about "keeping the congregation clean and the need to confess" and the speaker is looking at you the whole time.
i'm wondering what sort of biking shoes and pedals you are using.
i'm a road biker, so i enjoy speed and distance riding, and am upgrading my shoes and pedals.
anyone have experience with specialized road shoes with the boa stem?
BGN- Might be a too much of a drive to have your bike worked on there but at least check it out next time your up there. When I walked in I thought that it was the type of store I would want if I owned a store. I like the bike brands they carried and a lot of the parts/accessories they had and they were displayed really well.
Gas Works park is a cool place to hang out.
i ran into an elder the other day at walmart.
he's a fairly good man and has a wife that is very sickly.
so sickly in fact i don't know how she's holding on.
I hope it hit him like a ton of bricks.
1. a shitty start we don't have to wait more than 4 verses of genesis 6 to put our feet in a big stinky bullshit :.
consequently, jehovah saw that mans wickedness was great on the earth and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only bad all the time.
jehovah regretted that he had made men on the earth, and his heart was saddened.
Lets see....
So the universe is almost 15 billion years old. Our solar system is almost 5 billion years old. He went through the whole process of experimenting with dinosaurs and all over 100s of millions of years. He finally gets to the point of making a sentient being and within 2000 years he says, "I've completely screwed this whole creation thing up, you all die now." What an wishy washy asshole!
i'm wondering what sort of biking shoes and pedals you are using.
i'm a road biker, so i enjoy speed and distance riding, and am upgrading my shoes and pedals.
anyone have experience with specialized road shoes with the boa stem?
No BGN, I moved back to California because I couldn't stand the rain.
I would guess that unless it was in an accident, your shifter could probably be fixed. Taking it off and dropping it in a solvent tank for a few hours works wonders for clogged up shifters.
As far as places to take your bike, I don't know where you live but one of the best stores I saw was an odd triangle shaped store that was right next to that trail(you could reach out an touch it from the trail) that goes from the locks over to Redmond. It was about a mile east of the college. The other place was also close to the college where they make Rodriquez bikes. From what I observed, I'd never take my bike to a place like Performance or Greggs up there unless you know the mechanic that will be working on it.
This whole thread got me thinking that my prize for 2nd place at the mountain bike national finals bike for the cross country intermediate race in 1990 was the first generation SPD pedals and shoes. Those pedals were ruined in the next year at the Mt. Shasta race where it rained and it turned into slogging through 36 miles of mud. Probably the hardest race I've ever done and it ruined at least $600 of parts.
while there are not too many currently defending the watchtower in this discussion forum, it happens from time to time.
and quite often, there may be new people and lurkers reading these discussions.
i just wanted you to ponder these questions.
To add to the OP:
I would like to know from a jw how it isn't a dead religion. It's 2014. It's been a 100 years since 1914. There really isn't even any need to debate 607 bce vs. 587 anymore. The generation is dead (and don't try and sell me the "overlapping" crap). Oh, it might go on for a while, but tell me how despite all their failed dating calculations (that was soooo-soooo important for our everlasting survival), how is it still relevant?