i brought this up to debator on another thread... and he/she ignored it... thought the subject deserved its own thread...for anyone who has never read the finished mystery.. .
the watchtower claims that jesus inspected the churches in 1919 and chose the watchtower to represent god on earth, based upon the spiritual food they were dispensing at that time.. .
note:.
When I was first researching I showed my x (an active jw) the Finished Mystery and pointed out the front cover. Then I pulled out a book on Egyptology and showed him what the symbol was. His eyes got really big. He jumped up off of the couch and literally ran out of the door. He is still a jw today, almost 20 years later. They will not see what they do not want to see.
Coffee
to the household of dog, hades, and those who go with you... may you have smoke [on the water]!.
as you know i have, for many years now, related to you that i hear the voice of the dog shepherd, the smoked one of hades and vodka spirits, auhsehaj hajahcisim [abbreviated in the ancient texts as grim, a four consonant tetragrammaton meaning smoke, drunk, and savior].
over such years i have received many questions and comments, and engaged in various debates regarding the validity of that name and my translation of it's transmutations throughout the ages including several redacted engagements of the original name.
Cameo,
Shelby is no troll. She has been on this forum since 2001.
I have never seen a single post of hers that is unkind. There are not many posters on this forum that one could say that of. I don't see any provocation in her posts. At all.
I have a lot of respect for her, and so do many other posters here.
And Cameo, sarcasm doesn't become you. I consider THAT bad behavior.
Shelby is definitely no idiot. She is smart enough to have earned her JD. Her behavior is better than most on the forum... and I think that needs all the encouragement I can throw her way.
Coffee
to the household of dog, hades, and those who go with you... may you have smoke [on the water]!.
as you know i have, for many years now, related to you that i hear the voice of the dog shepherd, the smoked one of hades and vodka spirits, auhsehaj hajahcisim [abbreviated in the ancient texts as grim, a four consonant tetragrammaton meaning smoke, drunk, and savior].
over such years i have received many questions and comments, and engaged in various debates regarding the validity of that name and my translation of it's transmutations throughout the ages including several redacted engagements of the original name.
Well, Ziddinia and Cameo,
If you don't want to hear from AGuest, just don't read her posts. Simple. You don't need an ignore button for that. Just scroll past... Sheesh!
I for one enjoy her posts, and would miss her terribly if she wasn't here.
And Cameo... I don't think she's needy at all.
Coffee
if the society put out theocratic warfare videos, it would really help jw youths stick around, imho.
in place of commercial videos that are violent and suggestive, wt-sanctioned videos would supply a viable, healthy alternative.
accordingly, concerned and thoughtful witness parents could participate with their little warriors in theocratic warfare videos as virtual ot prophets wipe out the dread canaanites, zimri and cozbi take love to new heights and the beasts of revelation devour their quarry .... and the parents count their time.. any other thoughts regarding family worship night and related meeting parts?
"As a soldier of Christ he is in the theocratic warfare and he must exercise added caution when dealing with God's foes. Thus the Scriptures show that for the purpose of protecting the interest of God's cause, it is proper to hide the truth from God's enemies."
Watchtower, June 1, 1960, p. 352.
"Lying generally involves saying something false to person who is entitled to know the truth..."
Aid to Bible Understanding under the definition of lie
You maybe confusing us with the Born again movement whom some groups think they will be taking up actual weapons at Armageddon and killing their fellow "evil" man.
Hardly.... You just believe Jehovah will kill 'em all for you...everyone who isn't a jw,that is.
Coffee
if the society put out theocratic warfare videos, it would really help jw youths stick around, imho.
in place of commercial videos that are violent and suggestive, wt-sanctioned videos would supply a viable, healthy alternative.
accordingly, concerned and thoughtful witness parents could participate with their little warriors in theocratic warfare videos as virtual ot prophets wipe out the dread canaanites, zimri and cozbi take love to new heights and the beasts of revelation devour their quarry .... and the parents count their time.. any other thoughts regarding family worship night and related meeting parts?
Debator,
Theocratic warfare strategy, which has been used by the Wt many times, is defined by withholding the truth from those who they do not believe are worthy of knowing the truth.
Coffee
I can only see a square with a blue and green square in the middle. It might just be me though... having server issues today.
Coffee
i brought this up to debator on another thread... and he/she ignored it... thought the subject deserved its own thread...for anyone who has never read the finished mystery.. .
the watchtower claims that jesus inspected the churches in 1919 and chose the watchtower to represent god on earth, based upon the spiritual food they were dispensing at that time.. .
note:.
Miller was the origin of 1874...but had the good grace to admit he was wrong!
Coffee
i brought this up to debator on another thread... and he/she ignored it... thought the subject deserved its own thread...for anyone who has never read the finished mystery.. .
the watchtower claims that jesus inspected the churches in 1919 and chose the watchtower to represent god on earth, based upon the spiritual food they were dispensing at that time.. .
note:.
Crazycate,
The wt claims to be chosen on the basis of what they were teaching in other words they were chosen because of what they taught. Other groups were expecting something to happen as well... the Millerites/Adventists for example from whom Russells whole end times stuff began. 1914 was not the first date Russell pointed to... initially Christ was to return in 1874... and armageddon was to come in 1914... and of course armageddon didn't come in 1914...so they got new light and changed it!
Coffee
i thought it would be an interesting exercise to ask everybody on here what their 'top 10 reasons why jws don't have the truth' actually were.
maybe we can see some correlating views/patterns/ideas that may help us de-programme the newbies that come on this site.
if eventually most people have an outstanding gripe/concern it'll help everybody understand the ex-jw mindset a little better.
MMXIV
Great post!
Coffee
i brought this up to debator on another thread... and he/she ignored it... thought the subject deserved its own thread...for anyone who has never read the finished mystery.. .
the watchtower claims that jesus inspected the churches in 1919 and chose the watchtower to represent god on earth, based upon the spiritual food they were dispensing at that time.. .
note:.
The Finished Mystery leaves no doubt that the Wt is a fraud. It is crystal clear for anyone who has ever read it.
Coffee
