as most jws no longer have jesus as their mediator, how do they conclude their prayers?.
......and so, dear father, we approach you now in the name of the 144,000. amen?.
i only recently became aware of this change where jesus is mediator to just a select few.
Good morning, Englishman,
Most jws don't realize it. I was in when the change happened, and I never noticed. I came across the change when I started researching, and it's one of the issues that made me realize that the organization was a hoax. I confronted several jws about it, and they got that now familiar glazed over look.
cb
ive recently been in contact with a couple of ex-jws that i knew in my childhood.. what has surfaced is the amount of fear that we experienced as young children when we were involved with the witnesses.
i accept that children often do develop irrational fears as part of growing up, but what i am talking about here is a deep-seated fear of being harmed.. many young children that i grew up with in the witness religion were of an unusually nervous disposition.
i recall how when i was first taken to meetings that i found the whole experience somewhat sinister and strange.
Anyone else experience this? My mom would have practice sessions for the meetings, to train me to stay quiet. I would have to sit in a wooden chair in my room without any break for up to 2 hours at a time.
Couldn't take a chance that I might not behave at the meetings. That was before I started school, so must have been 3 or 4.
cb
ive recently been in contact with a couple of ex-jws that i knew in my childhood.. what has surfaced is the amount of fear that we experienced as young children when we were involved with the witnesses.
i accept that children often do develop irrational fears as part of growing up, but what i am talking about here is a deep-seated fear of being harmed.. many young children that i grew up with in the witness religion were of an unusually nervous disposition.
i recall how when i was first taken to meetings that i found the whole experience somewhat sinister and strange.
I never left the house for school or anywhere, that my Mom didn't say
"Remember who you are. You must be an example. Everyone know's you are a Witness, and they will judge the organization by your behavior"
There were other versions of the same thing, but the message was always the same. Don't ever bring reproach on the organization.
I was always an outsider. The only witness kid at school until I was a senior in high school. I always had the feeling I was being watched, and if I wasn't good enough, the organization would lose Jehovah's favor. Tough burden for a little kid.
cb
ive recently been in contact with a couple of ex-jws that i knew in my childhood.. what has surfaced is the amount of fear that we experienced as young children when we were involved with the witnesses.
i accept that children often do develop irrational fears as part of growing up, but what i am talking about here is a deep-seated fear of being harmed.. many young children that i grew up with in the witness religion were of an unusually nervous disposition.
i recall how when i was first taken to meetings that i found the whole experience somewhat sinister and strange.
I think you're wrong, Fred. My cousin has 3 young girls, ages 8-11.
They are happy, well adjusted kids. Compared to my childhood, their lives are very normal. They get to be kids. They get to do all the fun stuff kids should do at their ages. They're not fearful that armageddon will be here any minute.
cb
ive recently been in contact with a couple of ex-jws that i knew in my childhood.. what has surfaced is the amount of fear that we experienced as young children when we were involved with the witnesses.
i accept that children often do develop irrational fears as part of growing up, but what i am talking about here is a deep-seated fear of being harmed.. many young children that i grew up with in the witness religion were of an unusually nervous disposition.
i recall how when i was first taken to meetings that i found the whole experience somewhat sinister and strange.
Because it's not good fear, Fred. It's irrational fear that can keep you from living a normal childhood.
I remember third grade. A terrible storm came up suddenly, and it grew dark and ominous outside. I watched out the classroom window as it grew worse and worse. I was terrified that it was armageddon starting. How was I going to get home to my parents? How was my Dad going to get home from work? What was going to happen to me? To them?
I worked myself up into a panic!
I was afraid of every thing. Afraid of never being good enough. And even if tried my hardest, I was not sure I would make it through
armageddon. I got baptized at age 8. Thought that might help. It didn't.
Had a nervous stomach all my life till I left the borg.
cb
hello hilda: in your thread below about "thought exeperiments and bill bowen, you state the following: "i once had a friend who had racial epithets hurled at her by a white man.
he was not the only one who showed himself to be a racist.
she also went to get a job at a huge prominent corporation in a prosperous country and she did not get the job because she was a certain color.
Exactly! 100% on target, Amazing!
cb
found this on the web.
interesting.
hope the link works.
Or maybe someone is communicating from beyond the grave? Could explain the "Mystic Cristian" [8>] Care to comment, Hilda?
cb
"there is neither jew nor greek, there is neither slave nor freeman, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one person in christ jesus".
galatians 3:28
I'll start swimming now. See you in about a year.
cb
found this on the web.
interesting.
hope the link works.
Found this on the web. Interesting. Hope the link works. A relative, perhaps, Hilda?
http://www.uni-mainz.de/~horst/hildegard/documents/revisions.html
cb
"there is neither jew nor greek, there is neither slave nor freeman, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one person in christ jesus".
galatians 3:28
Oh goody!!! What did I win????
cb
