Hey Tom....glad you like the suit... My avatar changes from time to time... this one is a picture of my son... who will be a new dad in March! Time flies, doesn't it?
Great to see you posting here...look forward to more!
Coffee
i don't mean this to be offensive to any catholics in any way and believe that they can have true salvation unlike the jw.
also, i know little about the in's and out's of practicing catholicism, as i have never had any interest in being one.
regardless i am always surprised when an ex-jw says that they have found the real truth in catholicism.
Hey Tom....glad you like the suit... My avatar changes from time to time... this one is a picture of my son... who will be a new dad in March! Time flies, doesn't it?
Great to see you posting here...look forward to more!
Coffee
i don't mean this to be offensive to any catholics in any way and believe that they can have true salvation unlike the jw.
also, i know little about the in's and out's of practicing catholicism, as i have never had any interest in being one.
regardless i am always surprised when an ex-jw says that they have found the real truth in catholicism.
Hi Tom! waves~ Welcome! Good to see you!
Coffee aka Debbie Shard
i'm sure this has been posted before but i think many have changed their avi's.
my avi:.
the frog i have now has a gavel...i liked it because to me, it's giving the impression of being released from bondage (as in a prisoners case).
My present avatar is a picture of my son. My forum name is coffee_black because I love coffee and I drink it black
Coffee
if i only got a nickel every time i heard an x jdub say i should write a book, i'd be a zillioniare.
I actually wrote one... but it was never intended to be published... It was cathartic...helped put things into perspective.... worked through a lot of stuff as I wrote it.
Coffee
i had a great dog as a child.. her name was butterscotch.
she was a mix of golden retriever and beagle.
i was recently looking at the following website, and looked up those breeds... discribes her perfectly.
Awwww Burn,
How adorable!!!!!!!
Coffee
i had a great dog as a child.. her name was butterscotch.
she was a mix of golden retriever and beagle.
i was recently looking at the following website, and looked up those breeds... discribes her perfectly.
I had a great dog as a child.. her name was Butterscotch. She was a mix of Golden Retriever and Beagle. I was recently looking at the following website, and looked up those breeds... discribes her perfectly. ....Funny thing is though, kinda' sums me up as well
So what breed is closest to your own personality?
http://www.bedogsavvy.com/dog-breeds/
Golden Retrievers: The 4 paw guide
Golden Retrievers are everybody's friend! Known for its devotion, loyalty and obedient nature.
Self confident, sensitive, intelligent and infrequent barkers, Golden Retrievers are sporting creatures and yearn for a day in the field. Ignoring its active nature and powerful physique can lead to behaviour problems. Goldens need daily physical and mental exercise. With a tendency to over exuberance and boisterousness - their enthusiasm for everything often distracts it!!
Native to Britain, the breed we know today is attributed to the kennels of Lord Tweedmouth during the 1860's when he combined yellow flat coated dogs with Tweed Water Spaniels and was first exhibited in 1908.
The Retriever is not aggressive in any way, which makes it ideal for training as a guide for the blind.
Beagles: The 4 paw guide
These dogs love to explore the outdoors and is an enthusiastic trailer.
Given sufficient exercise, it is a a calm house dog and makes an excellent children's dog – gentle, incredibly tolerant and always ready to join in a game. It is an independent breed and may run off if a trail beckons, it also barks and howls!!The Beagle is the smallest of the British scent hounds, whose ancestors may be traced to William the Conqueror's arrival in Britain. It was originally smaller and was carried around by hunters in their saddle bags. It was kept almost entirely as a working dog until the 1940's, but is now equally popular as a pet.
The Beagle has soft brown eyes that betray his warm personality but do not reveal his admiral courage and stamina. A truly trustworthy friend can be found in him and he makes a great family pet, as he is always eager to romp and play. Left alone he may howl, but training can alleviate this problem, although he should not be left alone for long periods of time.
Coffee
yesterday i was in company meetings all day.... to break things up, they played crazy commercials and funny videos... here's one about a fake cup of coffee that i thought i'd share... after all my name is coffee .
http://www.monkeybriefs.com/view/video/fake-cup-of-coffee_301.html.
coffee .
Yesterday I was in company meetings all day.... To break things up, they played crazy commercials and funny videos... Here's one about a fake cup of coffee that I thought I'd share... after all my name is Coffee
http://www.monkeybriefs.com/view/video/Fake-Cup-of-Coffee_301.html
Coffee
recently we seem to have had a few different dramas and subsequent fallout on the fourm which i feel has detracted from its purpose.
with this in mind we have decided that we need to bring the forum back on track and as such we will be clamping down on a lot of the aggressive / insulting posts which have begun to become the norm for a few people.
we will also be clamping down on the paranoid assusation type of comments against newbies, if someone joins the fourm and you do not believe everything they post - so what, why do we need to hound them away with shouts of troll and fake etc, just ignore them if you dont beleive them.
Coffee,
No one ever convinced me of anything by calling me names or being abusive..... with one exception. I was married to a verbally abusive man for almost 20 years.... he convinced me that I didn't want to be married to him any more... and once I realized I could, I divorced him. He's still a jw and has virtually no relationship with either of our grown kids or his grandchildren. He's still convinced he's right though... but no one is listening to him any more.I have been thinking about this paragraph the past hour or so. It is a passive agressive attempt imo to 'win' an argument that you began by PM.
Judging from the private correspondence between us, unsolicited on my side I might add, I think you are suffering 'transference' issues. I think these issues are clouding your judgement. Lets just leave it at that.
Wow HS! I didn't intend to cause such puzzlement...or such an avalanche of HS posts! There's no hidden meaning or transferrence going on here. As I wrote the words "no one has convinced me of anything by calling me names or being abusive ", I realized that wasn't true...so I wrote briefly about the one time that I had been conviced of something by abusive words. I know of the damage that words can cause...in my case to all in my family. It had nothing to do with our lengthy pm exchange. I have not responded to your last pm (nor opened it) because I simply don't want to continue the debate..by pm or here on this thread. At some point it just becomes silly, and I know when to stop.
Whether written or spoken...in person or by phone, recording or by whatever means...words have an effect on others. That is why Edward Bulwac-Lytton coined the saying "The pen is mightier than the sword" over a century ago. They can be used to heal and they can be used to hurt...and everything in between. With your masterful command of the English language, you are obviously more adept at their use than most on this db. "Use that power wisely, grasshopper."
I think we all would do well to think back to our own journey out of the organization....and how much pain and confusion we were in when we took the first tentative steps of that journey. Whether we called a helpline, talked to a friend, or came to a db...that pain was real...and we were looking for help and/or support. My hope is that they find that help and support.
Coffee .... and that's my final answer...
recently we seem to have had a few different dramas and subsequent fallout on the fourm which i feel has detracted from its purpose.
with this in mind we have decided that we need to bring the forum back on track and as such we will be clamping down on a lot of the aggressive / insulting posts which have begun to become the norm for a few people.
we will also be clamping down on the paranoid assusation type of comments against newbies, if someone joins the fourm and you do not believe everything they post - so what, why do we need to hound them away with shouts of troll and fake etc, just ignore them if you dont beleive them.
It is often the attempts to get them to see just how stuck they are in this thinking that results in many of the Board wars that we have seen over the years. Unlike many, I do not recoil from the idea of combative threads that might force people to sit up and take stock of their thinking. Yes, often it can be painful, but suffering a little short-term discomfort for the sake of a longer term advantage is imo a price worth paying.
HS
I have to disagree here. In this thread alone there are some who have said that they hesitated to post for fear of how they would be treated. I think that speaks volumes.
I manned the 800-why-1914 helpline intermittently for about 8 years. What do you think would have been the results..had I yelled at callers or swore at them or called them names over the phone? Do you think I would have awakened them? Or do you think I would have proved to them that the watchtower was right about people who leave the organization? I know it's frustrating to deal with the watchtower indoctrination that is so deeply ingrained in some... but you can't blast it out of them. It takes patience and time and reasoning to help them. They are already in enough pain. We don't need to give them more...from the very place they come to for help.
No one ever convinced me of anything by calling me names or being abusive..... with one exception. I was married to a verbally abusive man for almost 20 years.... he convinced me that I didn't want to be married to him any more... and once I realized I could, I divorced him. He's still a jw and has virtually no relationship with either of our grown kids or his grandchildren. He's still convinced he's right though... but no one is listening to him any more.
Coffee
will he manage to make it for the entire hour of the bookstudy or will he open his mouth and - well, you know moshe!.
i am out of town and just thought i would see what has changed in the almost 20 years since i sat in on a kh meeting.
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Great job moshe!!!!!!
Coffee