I'm sorry for always doing what i was told, instead of taking the time to research things for myself. but I forgive me.
atypical
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Should you apologize????
by jw inyes, a person should never be too proud to swallow his pride, apologize, and seek forgiveness.
abigail, a wise woman in ancient israel, provides an example of the power of an apology, although her apology was for a wrong that her husband had committed.
while dwelling in the wilderness, david, who later became king of israel, together with his men protected the flock that belonged to abigail's husband, nabal.
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Are Apostates "Obsessed" with Jehovah's Witnesses?
by booker-t ini was talking with my friend the other day and he was telling me that he was going to several kh to debate with jw's elders to look in their libraries and show jw's the "cover ups" from their own books etc; this man has "no life" except debating with jw's.
i feel enough is enough!
when are apostates going to just let it go?
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atypical
yes you do, Danny!! You are my hero, buddy!
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Are Apostates "Obsessed" with Jehovah's Witnesses?
by booker-t ini was talking with my friend the other day and he was telling me that he was going to several kh to debate with jw's elders to look in their libraries and show jw's the "cover ups" from their own books etc; this man has "no life" except debating with jw's.
i feel enough is enough!
when are apostates going to just let it go?
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atypical
Gumby, you make a good point. The problem is that the rules are different for us. Apostates - contrary to what the society teaches - are not trying to start any type of centralized religous group, therefore they have no group of their own within which to spread propoganda, so they have only to target active jws, which in a way plays into a lot of the stereotypes about apostates that the society promotes.
So, while I applaud the apostate activists wholeheartedly, I also have taken a different tack in my situation. I have decided that the burden of proof is not on my shoulders. I am not promoting the view that anybody must agree with me in order to keep living. So, I make a point to ask questions and force my jw family and friends to support statements that they typically make. I have found that asking a jw to explain a dogmatic statement (wordly people are so lost, etc.) has a very noticeable effect. Plus, they cannot accuse me of promoting anything.
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My Aunt died this morning
by xjwms inthis is one of my mother's sisters.
i am going to feel this one, ... because for the last five years, since my departure from the org.
her and my cousins, .. we have become very close.. they have been very supportive for me.
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atypical
I'm sorry for your loss. That's great that she lived so long and showed kindness to you when you needed it.
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Are Apostates "Obsessed" with Jehovah's Witnesses?
by booker-t ini was talking with my friend the other day and he was telling me that he was going to several kh to debate with jw's elders to look in their libraries and show jw's the "cover ups" from their own books etc; this man has "no life" except debating with jw's.
i feel enough is enough!
when are apostates going to just let it go?
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atypical
It depends, really. does he have family who shuns him? how much has he lost because of involvement with the jws? even though I agree it is potentially unhealthy to be so consumed, I wonder how much time he puts into it as opposed to the time a regular jw puts into their religious routines? At the very worst, would it be comparable?
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Are Apostates "Obsessed" with Jehovah's Witnesses?
by booker-t ini was talking with my friend the other day and he was telling me that he was going to several kh to debate with jw's elders to look in their libraries and show jw's the "cover ups" from their own books etc; this man has "no life" except debating with jw's.
i feel enough is enough!
when are apostates going to just let it go?
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atypical
Not as much as JW's are obsessed with apostates.
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"Raw Abandonment"
by scout575 in"i continued to pray and seek the face of god, but nothing happened.
why didn't god help me?
i am begging for spiritual help.
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atypical
Shiner: He recognizes creation, he seeks God, if he settles for anything short of Christ then you know where he goes. What you need is a full study of Calvinism. That type of study will take you some time. An imperfect analogy about being chosen by God would be like a situation where a governor of a state gives out pardons (grace-unmerited favor). The other inmates have the same type of crimes and pay the full penalty.
This is where you will always go wrong - in blaming the innocent. You are saying that a starving child in Africa should be not only searching for God instead of food, but also that he/she should discover and agree with your belief system in order to deserve God's love. As far as the "pardon" analogy, I think it was great and very fitting.
As of December 2005, US President George W. Bush had issued 69 presidential pardons. The following is a partial list.
- Alan Dale Austin (1987 misapplication of mortgage funds)
- Bruce Louis Bartos (1987 transportation of a machine gun in foreign commerce)
- David Thomas Billmyer (1978 military conviction for making a false claim)
- Carl E. Cantrell (1966 moonshining)
- Charles Winston Carter (1964 conspiracy to steal government property)
- Meredith Elizabeth Casares (1989 embezzlement of US Postal Service funds)
- Charles Russell Cooper (1959 bootlegging)
- William Charles Davis (1983 income tax evasion)
- Paul Jude Donnici (1993 transmission of wagering information)
- Gerald Douglas Ficke (1992 money laundering)
- Harper James Finucan (1980 marijuana possession with intent to distribute)
- Joseph Daniel Gavin (1979 military insubordination, drunkenness, threats, and other offenses)
- Samuel Wattie Guerry (1984 food stamp fraud)
- Charles E. Hamilton (1989 mail fraud)
- Brianna Lea Haney (1991 failure to report monetary instruments)
- David Custer Heaston (1988 false statement)
- Bobby Frank Kay Sr. (1959 moonshining)
- Richard Ardell Krueger (1979 mail fraud and 1980 false statement on a loan application)
- Raul Marin (1982 failure to appear in court)
- Melvin L. McKee (1982 conspiracy to make false statements on a loan application)
- Charles McKinley, (1950 moonshining)
- Michael Mark McLaughlin (1983 mail fraud and conspiracy)
- Michael Robert Moelter (1988 illegal gambling business)
- Billie Curtis Moore (1977 income tax evasion)
- Richard Arthur Morse (1963 transportation of a stolen vehicle)
- Kenneth Lynn Norris (1993 unlawful disposal of hazardous waste)
- Donald Lee Pendergrass (1964 armed bank robbery)
- Fred Dale Pitzer (1976 transportation of falsely made securities)
- Charles Blurford Power (1948 transportation of a stolen vehicle)
- James Edward Reed (1975 marijuana possession with intent to distribute)
- Cecil John Rhodes (1981 false statement on a loan application)
- Ernest Rudnet (1992 conspiracy to file false tax returns)
- Gary L. Saltzburg (1995 theft of government property)
- John Gregory Schillace (1988 conspiracy to possess cocaine for distribution)
- Russell Don Sell (1995 aiding and abetting a false statement on a loan application)
- Scott LaVerne Sparks (1989 theft of government property)
- Wendy St. Charles (1984 conspiracy to trade narcotics and cocaine distribution)
- David Lloyd St. Croix (1989 disposal of stolen explosives)
- Johnson Heyward Tisdale (1994 food stamp fraud)
- Joseph William Warner (1995 arson on an Indian reservation)
- Jimmy Lee Williams (false statements on a loan application)
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Another JW Suicide
by orangefatcat inyes last thursday a young brother who was in the same hall as me but in the other cong.
and he was 29, a newborn baby and a 2or 3 year old and young wife committed suicide.
was killed here in our town of newmarket by a train.
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atypical
So sorry to hear about this. I'm glad there was good support at the funeral. And AuldSoul, I am very sorry for you, too - but I applaud your effort to make things better.
Wasanelderonce - seriously, I don't think anyone means that the society is responsible for every suicide. But the fact is that they power they wield over people's lives has been used irresponsibly over and over, especially when it comes to those with chemical imbalances or other mental health issues.
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Any question that most witnesses are whacked? (video)
by Jourles inyet another example of ludicrousness.
obviously this was a homemade video production.
it came from a jw chain email.
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atypical
that was thoroughly disturbing. I am amazed by their insane logic, and that I never used to see it. It's like word math from another planet.
a. there are bad things in the world and we can prove it by using heart-rending pictures
b. this proves that our religion is right and everyone else is being deceived
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I saw The Exorcist last night! ...and no demon problems yet!!! ;)
by Kudra inyee haw!
i am working my way through all the movies that are supposed to open me up to demon influences in order to attract demon possession in an effort to prove whether or not there is a god.
juuuust kidding.
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atypical
I have also started watching movies I previously would have thought were "demonic". It's strange what a paradigm shift can do for you.
By the way, nothing's been flying around my house either. But I guess the witnesses would say that the demons are just leaving me alone because I don't go to meetings and their work is done!