Most of my childhood/jw upbringing I was naturally an introvert, as an adult I'm both, I have been the life of the party kind of guy who's social life takes more effort and time then a full time job, and i have been known to enter hermit mode where i'm not seen in months by any of my friends. I think I am naturally ambidextrous in this.
weinermcgee
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So, are you, by nature, and introvert or extrovert?
by onacruse inmulan's thread, and simon's post thereto, got me to thinking about this, especially in terms of what i might be today, minus the influence of the wts.. by nature, i was always an introvert.
early on (age 10 or so), i immersed myself in mathematics, physics, chemistry...the "pure" sciences, devoid of "worldly" meaning...just the plain and simple facts, thank you ma'am.
i'd stay in my room and study stuff until my mom had to literally grab me by the ear and say "craig, go outside and blow off the stink!.
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Hi New Here!
by weinermcgee inhi folks whats up?.
i grew up as a strict jw until my early 20's when an event happened that made me start thinking for myself, thank goodness.
what i mean by strict was i think most of you will undertsand that i really believed in what i was doing, baptised at the age of 13, seriously considered bethal, pioneered and was offered to be a ministerial servent.
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weinermcgee
hey legolias and qwin my neighbors, actually i only recently moved to newfoundland i consider my home to still be the annapolis valley of nova scotia which i am sure qwin is familiar with...probably seen you taking a 45minute walk/bathroom break at an assembly at the dartmouth sportplex eh?
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Where do you consider would be the best place in the world to live?
by JH in.
what do you think?.
i love canada, but i would rather a warmer climate.. to me australia would also be a nice place to live, large country, english, and warmer than here.. i'd love to live in the us too.
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weinermcgee
I like living in canada, I wish I could retire and travel around it till i die. My favorite spot is still either mahone bay n.s or victoria b.c.
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witness relatives
by Ellie in.
my mum and older brother came over today, i don't think my brother would have come only my mum needed him to drive her, she only came to see my 8 week old daughter for the first time.. they stayed all of 10 minutes, then went to visit my sister who is still a witness, came back a couple of hours later, my brother stayed in the car while my mum said that my daughter is beautiful and then they left, without so much as a goodbye from my brother.. what an evil religion it is that makes people behave like that towards their own family, and i'm one of the lucky ones because i doubt a lot of you would even get that from their families.
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weinermcgee
Quick story:
My dad is still 100% loyal to his congregation, even though his entire family isn't anymore. (my mom, me and my brother) He would go out of his way to do anything for anyone in his congregation, but wouldn't turn around for his kids. We have never had much of a relationship even when i was a good JW, so we have barely spoken in 10 years. He gets cancer has to have an emergency operation with a 50/50 chance of living, the only ones there by his bedside were us, his immediate family, and his sister. I was so pissed off I said to him if you come out of this you just remember who is really here for you and who really cares about you. He lived and is partially disabled and still no help from the JW's he loves so much not even from the elder who lives across the street from him and owns a construction company. When my dad asked if he could fix a leak in his roof (paying fully for his services) as he cannot climb a ladder. His response; thats too small a job for his company call someone else. It breaks my heart that they stole my father from me all these years. I bet he would have been a nice dad.
What other group treats other humans this way to teach them to abandon family members over strangers? Makes me think of wild animals who eat their young.
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Whats your fav dessert????
by Es ini think mine would have to be pancakes...we go to this restaurant that makes a pancake as big as a dinner plate with a banana baileys sauce and ice cream.
yummo!.
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weinermcgee
Lemon merange (how do you spell that?) pie and carrot cake with walnuts, cream cheese icing and no raisins.
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How precisely will god save the JWs at armageddon?
by kid-A inhave you ever wondered, based upon the artists conception below, how it is jehovah will supposedly "save" the witnesses during his "great day of vengeance(tm)".
i mean, will he transport all 6 million of them into waiting cruise ships while he is throwing fireballs onto the earth?
how will all the dubs avoid falling into those giant crevasses as he starts the continental earthquakes?
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weinermcgee
Oh didn't you guys know? Were going to live under the sea!
(Music starts)
"Under the sea...Under the sea,"
"life will be better under the sea...take it from me"
All you Simpsons fans out there will get it.
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Hi New Here!
by weinermcgee inhi folks whats up?.
i grew up as a strict jw until my early 20's when an event happened that made me start thinking for myself, thank goodness.
what i mean by strict was i think most of you will undertsand that i really believed in what i was doing, baptised at the age of 13, seriously considered bethal, pioneered and was offered to be a ministerial servent.
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weinermcgee
Hi again and thanks for the comments, I kinda figured I'd find people like myself here! Great! Here's what made me leave!
Like I mentioned pretty fun childhood, luckily I was in a congregation that had many kids my age and there was always a function or something social going on wich was great...until... we started discovering girls which I think is late blooming for most witnesses because of all the "bad" stuff that can happen with the oppsosite sex. So 16ish most of my friends are getting trouble and getting girlfriends which realistically in means they date like 8 year olds date which very unnatural, no being alone not even holding hands, you just "like" each other and pass notes at the hall kinda thing. No wonder there are so many messed up relationships, by the time you are 18 you marry just to "date" someone. So thats what I did like most everyone I knew Boy was I stupid.
So I married a nutcase when I was 19, which I of course didn't know until I was 6 months into it. Gee maybe If was allowed to be alone with this girl I might have been able to realise this before we got married. So 5 years, 2 kids and numerous elders visits to try and help out our marriage that never had a chance to begin with, we divorce. This is when I start questioning things, Why I am I forced to take life advice from someone who has never had kids, never been through what I have or has any real training in the matter besides quoting scriptures. But I trudge on, my wife cheated on me and got disfellowshipped, I am not 100% perfect in the marriage either, I think I was the average anal JW guy but she really was did have emotional mental problems..its not the bitterness talking, no surprise with her JW/military upbringing. But anyways theres never an excuse for cheating.
So I move back to my childhood cong where my family and lifelong friends are thinking I'd receive lots of love and support, since I was the innocent one in JW terms. I was dead wrong. I was treated like i was disfellowshipped no one would talk to me. no one would come out and directly say it but i was "bad assosiation" because my marriage fell apart. i couldn't believe it! That hurt 10 times worse then being cheated on. So i went into hermit mode slowly stopped attending meetings entirely. Fast forward 2 years I have gone to college things are going well for me, Since i was a self employed janitor my whole life and i didn't want to work with JW's (who owned all the local janitorial businesses) I joined my mom in the family restaurant business (on a side note in seven years even before i joined not one JW set foot in there unless there was a free meal involved...some support they show for one another) So I rent a house and look for a roomate, turns out its a female, big deal or so I thought. Suddenly the elders who did such a great job ignoring me 2 years earlier are on a witch hunt to track me down, to find out if I am living with a woman, come to our restaurant every sunday right after the sunday morning meeting, so say 12:30 during a crazy lunch hour. Gee i wonder why i wouldn't talk to them, first causing a scene in front of customers and how busy i was. So they somnehow track down my roomate at her work and ask her a question, "Do you live with Jeff (me)?" she of course said yes since she isn't familiar with dealing with crazy people. I get a phonecall the next thursday evening and there are 2 elders on the line. They say since I refuse to talk to them ( i said stop coming noon on sundays and i'd gladly talk since my hatred hadn't set in yet) they found out i'm living with a woman (my roomate) and they have made the decision to disfellowship me. I was so astonished said ok goodbye and that was that. I couldn't believe it.
I personally didn't really care except one little thing. My mom stopped going to meetings when I did for the same reasons as me, you do anything against me you have done to my mom thats her feelings. My brother was 13 or so and I made my father stop forcing him to go when he clearly didn't want to. But my dad was still a full blown 100% loyal witness, and I knew that my DFing would make him more of an outcast then he already was for losing his family to the "world". So I felt that by DFing me who hadn't had any connections to the JW's anyways was just going to make things harder for my father who unfortunately will never leave the religion even though I wish he would so badly. I felt for him knowing how he would be treated like trash because of me.
So theres my long winded story of how i over came the dark side and came over to the light side, i feel like darth vader, lol.
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I Need Some Help!
by Legolas indoes anyone know how to make a web page, one that i can use to sell my house on?
we are trying to sell it by ourselves!
any help would be appreciated.
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weinermcgee
Are you canadian? I am not sure if it matters or not but I own a publication that does advertising and a guy called me yesterday who wanted to advertise that he helps people who do not want to deal with realitors and sets them up with his sell your own home kit and i know it involves the internet, I am not super familiar with how his business works and if it matters if you are local or not. but i can hook you guys up if you would like. you can email me at [email protected]
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What do witnesses fear?
by joelbear indestruction?
naah, they know that this is really never going to happen to them.. the obscure threat of "displeasing jehovah"?
no, he isn't really real to them.. social disapproval?
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weinermcgee
Ms. Whip those are hilariously true and yours especially Lawrence. Its so funny to think of these things and how silly they are, even smurfs? C'mon the second they told us smurfs were demonized that should have been the end of this religion. Anyone seen "Waterboy" with Adam Sandler, his mother kept saying everything was "the devil"? Thats JWism at its best. Heres some more fears:
Having to go out in service with family that doesn't take a coffee break.
Having to go out in service with the special pioneer who takes a coffee break at Canadian Tire because they have free coffee. (Absolutely true story)
Someone noticing you just underlined anything in your watchtower so it looks like you actually studied it.
When you were being graded on "gestures" for your talk.
Hitting your finger with a hammer at a quick build and screaming FU*K in front of hundreds of brothers. (My friend did this one)
Becoming the next 40 year old virgin of the hall (he is in his fifties by now in my old hall)
Trying to watch a "R" rated movie without getting caught by someone
Someone finding out you have dreams of a university degree instead of being a janitor.
Masterbation.
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Hi New Here!
by weinermcgee inhi folks whats up?.
i grew up as a strict jw until my early 20's when an event happened that made me start thinking for myself, thank goodness.
what i mean by strict was i think most of you will undertsand that i really believed in what i was doing, baptised at the age of 13, seriously considered bethal, pioneered and was offered to be a ministerial servent.
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weinermcgee
Hi folks whats up?
I grew up as a strict JW until my early 20's when an event happened that made me start thinking for myself, thank goodness. What I mean by strict was I think most of you will undertsand that I really believed in what i was doing, baptised at the age of 13, seriously considered bethal, pioneered and was offered to be a ministerial servent. As opposed to those of you who grew up JW but always knew soon as you were 18 you would not be going to any more meetings. I think for those of you who had a simiar experience to this, it was of great mental anguish to be 24ish and suddenly lose everyone (except my mom) you thought you were close to, 24 and having hundreds of so called friends to zero. And not just losing friends but people going out of their way to avoid you, really really hurt. How anyone one can see a positive side of Disfellowshipping or leaving the religion where its basically the same treatment is beyond me.
I'm 30 now and have restarted my life made some REAL friends and am with the most amazing woman I could ever find. I am happy now but I sure wished that while I was going through the rough times I had someone who I could relate to. No one, no matter how understanding they are could possibly know what its like to be raised as a JW unless you went through it yourself. Even now, I wish had someone to talk to once in a while. Hence me joining this forum. But I have to admit I did have a good childhood as brainwashing as it was.
My current feelings are pure hatred for all religions, I believe we aren't the most powerful beings in the universe but no man made religion will ever be a part of my life. Now thats my opinion which I am entitled to. If some of you are happily in a religion then good for you whatever makes you happy. Isn't that what life is about? Finding out what makes us happy and then doing it? It sure isn't wasting my life away studying ever changing opinions on what the bible means and all the silly made up rules around it. Does anyone really believe that facial hair will make me be judged by god in a negitive way? "Ok buddy you got a goatee there, you aren't allowed in paridise." How people can follow this garbage without question in this day and age is crazy.
Anyways I could go on for hours. I am hoping to meet some people who understand my mental anguish, yes I still carry a little bit of it around with me.