arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....
Daddy, where do I come from? Originally from a one-celled organism, later a tadpole, then a monkey. All of these are your ancestors. You are on top of the food chain. Make sure you stay there. Be what you want, do what you want, just don't get caught. Yes, I can see that working. Good luck with that.
What a childish attitude.
This is precisely why evolution deniers are mocked.
very strange behavior by the attendants and elders after the duluth, ga, rc.
on the first link the attendants start to exit the arena, then line up and turn their backs on the street preachers.
(around the 6:00 mark).. elders and attendants after duluth rc.
One bat shit crazy up against a group of bat shit crazies.
Both sides look pathetic.
"My sky fairy is the real one. We bear witness to the one true sky fairy!"
as some of you know i'm not a religious person at all after leaving the jw's but there was a link on another site i was on and the link was to a pastor's vid.
(about exposing jw's as false prophets etc)being that i'm not at all interested in hearing a sermon, i was going to just leave the site and continue researching some other stuff but then curiosity made me wonder if he truly knew anything about jw's or was just going to be another religious leader downing jw's in an effort to make his version of the "gospel" sound more appealing.i have to admit i was pleasantly surprised at the extent of his knowledge of scripture that jw's like to use as well as the history behind the organization.
many of the points he brought out we've covered here before and he arranged them in an easy to understand and follow sequence.i'd be interested in hearing what some of you think on the job he did on exposing the jw's(wt)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3o56jwgbjk.
9 minutes in and I gave up.
Nothing new and it's the usual religious BS.
35-year-old female in california here.
never a jw, but have had bible studies and attended several meetings and even a convention once.
i've always been agnostic with leanings toward the belief in some deity or other, although the more i learned from the jw's, the more i've learned to doubt, not just their teachings, but the fundamental teachings of all religions.
I never said I believed in the Illuminati.
the Illuminati HAS been proven to exist.
Personally, I don't know what to believe.
I know you won't like me saying this but I feel so sorry for you. It feels like you're trapped in some kind of no man's land.
Just keep reading stuff that challenge your beliefs. Christopher Hitchens makes compelling arguments.
i'm reading an excellent book about defectors from the mormon church called differing visions: dissenters in mormon history.
through a collection of essays from many academic authors it looks at the life stories of dissenters and reasons for departure, as well as analysing the impact of their dissent on the church itself.
fascinating stuff and makes me wish there was a similar volume looking at the key dissenters from jws/watchtower and the impact they had.
Re Lloyd Evans
I know Lloyd's approach isn't to everyone's cup of tea...but...I know of 2 JW's who have woken up due to JW Survey and his videos. So horses for courses and all that.
Re Paul Grundy
I'd argue that in recent times, post Ray Franz and Carl O. Jonsson, Paul is the most influential ex-JW dissenter. JW Facts is probably the most important single resource on the internet for research. He should be on any list.
all us creationists try to do is offer true evidence that the one and only god is out there watching and looking down on us.
we present that certain scientists know the truth about god and that he is everything that we see from trees, life, weather, the air we breath, and even the most simple molecules.
but of course you atheists reject it because it is your nature to not be humble and see god because you want to rule your own life.
You're making yourself suffer when you do that.
I'm not you know. Being an atheist is the happiest I've ever been.
jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.
there is another mode for how he exists.
now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.
Well, first of all, what created the nothing?
Creationists have the same problem. Who created God? And where is the evidence that supports your answer.
i've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.
i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.
what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.
Randi $1,000,000 paranormal challenge
For 2 decades James Randi has offered $1M to anyone who can prove paranormal abilities in a lab.
Strangely enough no one has collected.
anyone see that there is a long letter on how to handle child abuse?.
Therefore, if the body of elders believes that one who has engaged in child sexual abuse decades ago may now qualify for minor privileges, such as carrying or adjusting microphones, operating audio/video equipment, or assisting with accounts, literature, magazines, or territories, they should assign two elders to call the Service Department. The as-signed elders should call the Service Department before any congregation privileges are extended.
This is a first isn't it? Putting a suggested time period of 'decades'?
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our korean brothers are very shy.
they reacted as the above ^^;;.
I can't read Korean, but if this video is a CoC video then it's brilliant:
