Posts by wizzstick

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The spinning blade of a Sword and the 2 Angels guarding the gate....

by stuckinarut2 in

for some reason i found myself shaking my head once again in disbelief at the story in genesis.. amongst all things, the very concept of a "flaming sword" spinning around and blocking the "entrance to the garden of eden" is so stupid!.

do people really believe that as a fact?.

seriously, swords were not even invented at that time!

wizzstick

I know it's hard to do but try stop taking Genesis literally

Jesus did. He said the flood happened. Which is BS.

And of course there's 2 Tim 3:16.

Either it's all inspired or it isn't...

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The spinning blade of a Sword and the 2 Angels guarding the gate....

by stuckinarut2 in

for some reason i found myself shaking my head once again in disbelief at the story in genesis.. amongst all things, the very concept of a "flaming sword" spinning around and blocking the "entrance to the garden of eden" is so stupid!.

do people really believe that as a fact?.

seriously, swords were not even invented at that time!

wizzstick

Seriously, swords were not even invented at that time! So how could they use a flaming sword?

When talking to JW relatives I point out two things.

1. The Tree of Life was not a symbolic tree. It was a magic tree because if Adam and Eve, or their descendants, got to it and ate from it they would live forever. Hence the angels and spinny sword.

2. This account means that God, the God of peace, invented the first sword.

Strangely enough they change the subject soon after.

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CO/DO's in the UK?

by pobthespazz in

can anyone compile a list of as many as possible past and present co/do's from the uk?

wizzstick

Thanks for the update Researchedandenlightened.

Hope Linda found happiness. Bit of a Stepford Wife but she deserved better.

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CO/DO's in the UK?

by pobthespazz in

can anyone compile a list of as many as possible past and present co/do's from the uk?

wizzstick

Jim and Linda Cleary.....now there,s a story !

Jim was our CO in the mid-90s.

A self righteous idiot, who was a big Trekkie. He would insist that ST:TNG was recorded by his host family when it was on. Got very stressed when someone forgot.

He was loved and loathed fairly evenly. He told me whillst we were on the ministry how his body of elders had found out that a lad had watched Aliens (an 18 rated film he stressed) so they D'fd him for his lack of repentance.

He had a habit of moving the podium away so it didn't block him. So he'd be standing there just behind the microphone. Seemed to love everyone being able to see him fully.

Years later we heard some stories about him.

Firstly that he'd left his wife amd run with some other woman.

Then that this was totally untrue.

Then that it was true.

So we never got to the bottom of it.

Is this where he ended up?

The five-strong team are all Jehovah’s Witnesses, with Liz Henderson and Micah Alford there daily, Natalie Webb works part-time and book-keeper Jim Cleary comes in once a week. “We take our religion seriously, but not ourselves,” said Jim, summing up the warm atmosphere around the place in an instant.

History of Lamb’s Jeweller

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God of the Old Testament

by unsure in

to those on these forums who are christian and or to those who believe in the god of the old testament; how does one overcome many of the questionable actions god took or allowed to happen in the old testament?.

many if not most of us have heard of criticisms of the god of the old testament.

you can find these criticisms on many websites.. how do you explain to an honest hearted person why god acted the way they did?.

wizzstick

Try to be specific because the Bible is full of stories.

Shall i go on?

You may need to as they've gone very quiet.

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Russian agents hacked US voting system manufacturer before US election

by Coded Logic in

the guardian: .

russian intelligence agents hacked a us voting systems manufacturer in the weeks leading up to last year’s presidential election .

russian military intelligence carried out a cyber-attack on at least one us voting software supplier and sent spear-phishing emails to more than a hundred local election officials days before the poll.

wizzstick

Meanwhile millions of illegals likely voted

Wake me up when there is evidence

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The Trump Connection

by Coded Logic in

i'm a little dumb struck to see that donald trump's first cross word against russia are in support of the jws.. http://fox-news24.com/trump-warns-russia-over-jehovahs-witnesses-ban-and-urges-members-to-seek-asylum-in-the-us/.

is this because trump genuinely values freedom of religion?

or is it because his son in law jared kushner has financial dealings with the jws?

wizzstick

Snopes has the answer:

Did Trump Warn Russia Over Jehovah's Witnesses Ban and Urge Members to Seek Asylum in the U.S.?

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Was looking at my childhood book "From Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained" I found something interesting.

by Still Totally ADD in

jw
friends

i was showing a friend of mine what kind of books my parents allowed me to read when i was very young.

no children books that was age related but the so called orange paradise book was my only children book i had.

she was taken back on how violent it was and showing little kids being killed by god was just unspeakable.

wizzstick

Upon closer inspection I see we are wrong. That is not a little girl with a doll! Notice how it is a matter of perspective. That is another girl/woman down below her. She is not holding the hand of the girl/ supposed dolly, below. Notice also how the "little girl" has breasts. I fear we are all mistaken.

Phew - that's alright then.

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Observations from an Ex-Elder Part 3 - Why not create multiple Adam & Eve's?

by doubtfull1799 in

i saw a post the other day on another forum (think it was reddit) that put forward the idea that god should have created multiple couples, not just adam and ever.

this idea was so simple and brilliantly logical, that i wish i'd thought of it, but i cannot claim credit!

but it really got me thinking of the practical implications and benefits.... if god had simply created multiple couples instead of one, he would in one foul swoop have solved the problem of incest, as well as have prevented 6 thousand years of human tragedy and a ransom sacrifice being needed etc.

wizzstick

I always got the "ransom" part

Interesting - I didn't.

IIRC the ransom was needed because a perfect man was needed to 'buy' back what another perfect man had lost. But...during the WT's sciencey public talks, they talk about how the sun will run out of hydrogen and that God can replenish the sun because of that scripture re the earth will be inhabitated for ever.

Hang on.

We know that suns die. We know that due to the huge distance that light need tos travel these events occured 1,000,000s of years in the past. So sun's dying must be part of God's perfect design, as these events happened before Adam and Eve sinned 6,000+ years ago.

So...if God can suspend his perfect laws for our sun, why couldn't he do the same for Adam or Eve? Or come up with a better plan to resolve the issue that this enormously painful one that involves suffering across human and animal life for 6,000 years and counting?

Our Sun's death can be stopped to fulfil his prophecy. Pity he couldn't have been more pragmatic with humans!

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Lots Of Whining And Complaining About Us JW's

by Deaconblues1914 in

in reading these posts, it sounds like a lot of you are very jealous of the wt.

society’s annual income and the money they/we have in the bank.

jehovah has indeed blessed us.

wizzstick

I would hate to be you when the G.T. breaks out.

I'll have a G&T thanks!