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  Modern evelution and animals that are curently changing

  by Crazyguy in

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  i ran across a video talking about animals that are currently evolving.

  did some more research to see if it was true and apparently it is.

  the major shocking discovery in my opinion is that changes elephants have made.

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  @Cofty I think you are setting yourself up for a quote mine there.

  In the context of evolution 'adaption' would be used to describe an animal population becoming more fit for the environment in which they exist. Selection pressures on the population's heritable variation will result in... 'evolution by natural selection' (hmm, that sounds like a great title for a book). Nowadays human selection pressure can have a similar effect on populations.

  To paraphrase Cofty... 'Evolution happens to populations not individuals'.

  True, some creationists will concede that 'adaption' in animal populations does happen; in my experience they normally call this micro-evolution. However (again, in my experience) they can never offer a mechanism that would stop all this 'adaption' or 'microevolution' adding up to any of the four types of speciation event.
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  Evolution is a Fact #26 - Colour Vision

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
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  each little flower that opens,each little bird that sings,he made their glowing colours,he made their tiny wings.. all of us have been moved by the riot of colours in a spring meadow, the majesty of a sunset or the beauty of a bird in breeding plumage.

  what greater evidence could there be of a loving creator than our colourful world and the human eye that is equipped to appreciate it?.

  this is the sort of simplistic argument that convinces a lot of creationists about their beliefs.. it's time to "unweave the rainbow".. light is detected by a proteins called opsins.

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  @GodZoo

  Sorry to go back, but I have just jumped on this thread.

  The modern synthesis is a very broad and often complex paradigm. The purpose of Cofty's OP was to briefly review some aspects of the evolution of colour vision. You made out that mentioning...

  Following the sudden demise of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago our ancestors began to thrive. Lots of vacant niches were available to be exploited including the opportunity to feed in daylight.

  ...is a "simplistic argument". Just of out interest, if you had to chose again do you think the above quote is either

  a) a simplistic argument

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  b) a very short summary of a well researched body of evidence that would not be appropriate to labour in a post on color vision.

  It amazes me how people can look at their watch and state with such certainty that this or that happened 65 million years ago give or take a few trillion years..

  I can only assume this is supposed to be humour. You seem to be suggesting there is no method science can employ to discern events in the distant past? At what date in the past do you believe science becomes ineffective?

  People can not even remember their own childhoods accurately yet they want you to believe and base your reality on what they say happened 65 million years ago?

  You are comparing testable physical evidence to a human's ability to remember their childhood. What exactly is your point? Who is 'they'?

  Let's be honest it all sounds very clever and precise but the truth is no one really has a clue and are just wildly stabbing in the dark.

  Are you being honest? Which bit is wildly stabbing in the dark specifically? The date? Evolutionary developments due to extinction events? Please do explain. Perhaps if you could actually make a specific point or raise an specific objection the board might be able to understand your viewpoint?
  
  
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  A Sincere Question Regarding Macroevolution

  by jacobm in

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  2. friends

  i have a sincere question related to macroevolution:.

  microevolution happens on a small scale (within a single population), while macroevolution happens on a scale that transcends the boundaries of a single species.

  despite their differences, evolution at both of these levels relies on the same, established mechanisms of evolutionary change:.

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  Have scientists ever been able to recreate or virtually witness a Macroevolution type jump that "transcends the boundaries of a single species"?

  @Jacob

  I think that many have answered your question in various ways, and I'd like to answer it myself also... but I am just curious as to what prompted you to ask? Do any of the answers ring true for you?

  As Cofty mentioned the real answer to your question is 'no'... but then again the question (IMHO!) is not framed correctly (please excuse the arrogance of that statement!).

  I think it would be fair to say evolution can only truly relate to populations not individuals; this is why the question does not seem to be framed correctly. Each individual in a population must be able to breed with the rest of the group, any massive genetic abnormalities would result in a dead end (quite literally).

  The way the question is phrased makes it sound like you are asking if science has ever witnessed a 'dog giving birth to a cat'... and that just cannot happen.
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  Reminder about language and content

  by Simon in

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  2. announcements

  while the vast majority of posts that the majority of posters share are perfectly fine (which we appreciate) i've noticed we have a few cases where bad language, crude innuendo and outright misogyny is creeping in.. this is not acceptable.. we're not certainly not prudish and neither are we going to enforce puritanical rules - sometimes a politically incorrect joke is funny as hell and sometimes strong language is justified.

  but often times content is completely out of place and cannot be justified.. so, please don't post crude content or use expletives just to be "shocking".

  it's childish and immature and won't be tolerated.. thank you to all the people this has nothing at all to do with..

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  @Simon

  Is it time I tell my version of my favourite joke then?
  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPQz4FftHT4
  
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  Politically Correct Wasteland

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
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  this was a comment i made from another post, but i would like to hear some people discuss this.

  i know the social justice warriors will scream i'm some sort of trump supporter for what i say even though i don't agree with his ideas and no i am not voting for him... i accept this is a go to for them.. i think we have fallen into a pc vacuum.. criticizing someones religion = racism!.

  telling someone to not be so sensitive = misogyny!.

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  "508 Million Year Old" Exceptionally Preserved Embryos Found

  by Perry in

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  2. beliefs

  actually, they we found over 100 years ago.

  but because so many dinosaur bones have yielded soft tissue, blood cells, dna fragments etc.

  , many have predicted (including myself) when all this really broke loose in 2005, that many more similar discoveries would be made simply by going back and cracking open old fossils and having a look inside.

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  @OnTheWayOut. Yes, the ink sac was fossilised. The team involved in the discovery as a bit of a publicity stunt extracted a sample and (as far as read) dissolved the ground up sample in ammonia solution; they then produced a picture of the 'squid' using this prepared ink.

  Perry, I am unsure who you think these articles you copy and paste are going fool? In both cases (the 'squid ink' and 'eggs' debacle) on this thread, your sources are deliberately misleading. Why are you happy spreading this kind of obvious misinformation? Is honesty not a virtue?
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  organization obsesion

  by Richard C B in

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  why are you guys so obsessed with organizations?

  there has to be order in the world and organised people!

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  @Richard. I assume you have some doubts about the organisation and would love for you to share them with the board.

  You must have doubts. If you truly believed the org was guided by Jehovah, you surely would take the council of the org and not associate with the apostates on this board?
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  Real Prophecy vs. Watchtower Prophecies

  by Perry in

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  2. bible

  while we had our eyes fixated on our "one-time" idol the watchtower and their false prophecies like the generation of 1914 that wouldn't pass away, 1975 etc.

  ; a number of real prophecies were unfolding.

  we just weren't taught to look for them.

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  How does your interpretation of the passage in Isaiah differ from the Jewish interpretation? How could somebody decide which is correct?
  
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  "508 Million Year Old" Exceptionally Preserved Embryos Found

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
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  actually, they we found over 100 years ago.

  but because so many dinosaur bones have yielded soft tissue, blood cells, dna fragments etc.

  , many have predicted (including myself) when all this really broke loose in 2005, that many more similar discoveries would be made simply by going back and cracking open old fossils and having a look inside.

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  @Perry

  “New, exceptionally preserved specimens of the weakly sclerotized arthropod Waptia fieldensis from the middle Cambrian (ca. 508 million years ago) Burgess Shale, Canada, provide the oldest example of in situ eggs with preserved embryos in the fossil record,” the researchers wrote in a report published earlier this month in the journal “Current Biology.”

  Great post again Perry. I found the article very interesting. Yet more evidence in support of evolution, basically science is charting the steady transition from less involved parenting styles to brooding behaviours in arthropods.

  This new study looks at some fossilized eggs found in Waptia fieldensis, a smaller clutch size and larger eggs suggests a higher investment in brood care; this is then compared to other arthropods in the Cambrian which demonstrates the development in behaviour and the possible requirement for evolutionary development of the carapace.

  I am not sure as to your point in the OP? Are you attempting to suggest that the study as uncovered 'viable' embryos? Are you attempting to suggest that the fossilization of small delicate objects such as 'eggs' is impossible?

  It seems to me you have missed the point of the article altogether. Have you disregarded the science in the paper entirely?
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  Pro Gun Florida mom shot by 4 year old son

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. experiences

  loaded gun under her car seat was picked up off the floor and the kid shot her in the back...the day before on facebook she boasted about his shooting skills.

  what is wrong with this picture?

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  It was interesting to note the gun was on the floor of the truck. If that truck was stolen... that's another gun in the hands of the criminals you bought the gun to protect yourself against.