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  Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$

  by oneyeopen in

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  o.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.

  coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.

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  AlphaMan: I am not sure exactly what to say to you. Do you really not understand the difference between comparing homophobic statements to racist statements in an effort to demonstrate the discrimination?

  Why would a gay couple want to force a Pastor to marry them?

  I have never suggested a Pastor should be forced to marry anyone, again as I have stated multiple times but you still fail to grasp the simple concept... if someone with a marriage license wants to discriminate I believe they should have the license removed. Is that clear?

  As you do not seem to be reading the posts I will just repost what I said earlier...

  Again I am not taking this 'out of context'....

  "Gay people have gained a lot of acceptance, but they lose support when they try to ramrod their beliefs down people's throats who simply believe differently." by AlphaMan

  Here you suggest that 'gay people' (generalising is a sure fire sign of homophobia) wanting to get married is not a desire for them to express love for one another, but an effort to "ramrod their beliefs down people's throats".

  Also, being gay is not a belief. What exactly do you think "their beliefs" are?
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  Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$

  by oneyeopen in

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  o.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.

  coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.

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  AlphaMan, clearly you have trouble reading and\or understanding...

  No.....your senseless ranting about gay marriage and anyone who doesn't agree that Christian Pastors should be forced to marry them is homophobic & racist makes you sound unstable.

  You think what I have said is 'senseless'? Yes clearly AlphaMan, saying discrimination against gay people is wrong is senseless. Shame on me.

  At no point have I suggested pastors should be forced to marry gay couples. I have suggested that people that want to discriminate should not be allowed to marry anyone, the state should revoke their license.

  Again, I cannot really type slower for you to help you understand, but... I am not saying you are a racist. It was a comparison. Sometimes people make 'comparisons' to help demonstrate a point or alter a view point, this was a mistake in your case as it seems you do not understand the concept.

  So basically you think I sound unstable because of your inability to read and understand my posts on this board.
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  Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$

  by oneyeopen in

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  o.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.

  coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.

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  oneyeopen, do you have any evidence that the percentage of the population that is gay has increased?

  Am I understanding your post? Are you suggesting that gay people either ;

  • choose to be gay
  • have been 'created' gay by some environmental factors in womb
  • have become gay by exposure to something like " bisphenal A"

  Is it impossible that being born gay could be just a part of nature? You talk about it as if being gay is somehow wrong and potentially needs fixing?
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  Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$

  by oneyeopen in

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  o.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.

  coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.

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  So assuming someone is a Christian makes me sound unstable... interesting?! Apologies for calling you a Christian.

  I reposted your own comment and simply replaced homophobic with racist and gays with black. When you read the substituted post, would you say it sounds racist? I cannot really explain any more clearly. I am not saying you are racist, I am saying it is homophobic.

  I have not taken what you said "out of context", you are saying that 'gays' are allowed to be discriminated against and I am saying they should not be. If a pastor does not want to follow state marriage laws they should simply stop marrying people.

  Again I am not taking this 'out of context'....

  Gay people have gained a lot of acceptance, but they lose support when they try to ramrod their beliefs down people's throats who simply believe differently.

  Here you suggest that 'gay people' (generalising is a sure fire sign of homophobia) wanting to get married is not a desire for them to express love for one another, but an effort to "ramrod their beliefs down people's throats".

  Also, being gay is not a belief. What exactly do you think "their beliefs" are?
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  Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$

  by oneyeopen in

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  o.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.

  coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.

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  Perry is this you? http://www.minbcnews.com/uploadedImages/weyi/News/Stories/westboro%20photo.jpg?w=440&h=330&aspect=nostretch
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  Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$

  by oneyeopen in

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  o.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.

  coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.

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  AlphaMan... did you watch that video now? I think not.

  I fear I may have lost you by comparing your homophobia to racism. I was making a (say the next word slowly emphasising each syllable) ...comparison... not suggesting that homosexuality is a race. I will not explain it any further as I am sure most people understood the ....comparison....
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  Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$

  by oneyeopen in

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  o.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.

  coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.

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  Now that's better!

  There you go AlphaMan, you should stand up with your Christian brother and announce your homophoia to the world. It is something you should be proud of... to paraphrase Perry's wonderful post... "God hates Fags". How much clearer can you get?

  Clearly Perry is a wonderful Christian person, you see despite God hating the gays... Perry is fully of "compassion" for them, how wonderful that such a pure soul as Perry is here in the world to convey such a message. But wait, we should not 'coddle' the gays... oh no... let's not forget that... no they deserve to DIE! That's right, God hates gays so much he kills them dead.

  I presume Perry that you also are against divorced couples remarrying?

  What about stoning adulterers? What about women that get wed and are not virgins, should they be killed? What about a betrothed woman who does not cry out while being raped, we probably should kill them too?

  What a wonderful message of compassion the bible gives the world, and thank you lord for sending such wonderful people as Perry and AlphaMan to carry your message home... Amen.
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  Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$

  by oneyeopen in

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  o.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.

  coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.

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  Alphaman, yes clearly I do not understand sarcasm.

  Nothing I have said equates to racism. I simply take the position that people should have the right not be marry black couples if they have a religious belief against it. You obviously have a problem with freedom of religion.

  If it's a licensed wedding business, then they should welcome and marry everyone. If it's a private denomination they should have the freedom to marry whoever they want.

  Black couples causing a Christian Pastor to be jailed for politely declining to marry a black couple is ramroding their beliefs down his throat. Some Christian Pastors probably do think marrying a black couple affects their eternal salvation. That's probably why they refuse to want to do it.

  Good grief....quit trying to make people do something they don't want to do, and simply move onto finding a minister that has no problem with it. Freedom is that simple.

  Yeah, freedom is that simple, everyone is free to discriminate against who ever they want... I get it now.

  You are not homophobic just like whoever wrote that quote above is not a racist. We could try the quote with 'jews and jewish' and somehow not be a antisemite? etc... etc...
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  Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$

  by oneyeopen in

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  o.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.

  coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.

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  My fictional couple "asking to be married", were just that. I believe churches can be exempted from marrying gay couples.

  I do not agree with this... clearly... I believe that any licenses should be revoked or the state witness should not attend any venue that refuses to marry gay people.

  In situations like these, homophobics are given a free reign to pour out their bigoted views, often without being called out for them - they cloak themselves in the flag calling on Freedoms and Free Speech, all the while trampling them into the ground.
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  Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$

  by oneyeopen in

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  o.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.

  coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.

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  AlphaMan, just to be clear we are not pals. If you do not want to follow the law and keep in step with the prevailing morality of the time, do not get a licence to marry people - simple.

  It will be difficult to stop 'singling you out', you see homophobia is not really acceptable behaviour.

  You seem to be suggesting that a 'gay couple asking to be married' at a licenced venue equates trying to " ramrod their beliefs down people's throats"? If two Christian gay people want to marry in a church is that so wrong?

  It is great to see when you noticed this discrimination against gay people your first thoughts were 'oh my god, they are singling out Christian pastors'... yeah that's the real injustice here. How dare they single out Christians in this great country, this great Christian country... everyone knows the Muslims hate gays too.

  Let's be clear here, are you suggesting that a loving god would 'compromise' a pastors 'eternal salvation' by allowing a gay couple to be married?

  Freedom of Religion should not allow homophobics to trample on the rights and discriminate against others.

  Also, you really need to watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw