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  "You can't believe anything science says, they're always changing their minds.."

  by disposable hero of hypocrisy in

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  i know this is going to come up in a conversation shortly, how would you respond to this?

  i've had it said to me before, specifically about health, one week wine/eggs/milk/axle grease is good for you, next week it's not..

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  Anyone calling themselves a scientist can publish an article or book or whatever stating their findings/beliefs

  It is true anyone "calling themselves a scientist" could "publish and article or book" just in the same way I could produce 'Dr Mash's guide to open heart surgery' and pay to have it published in all good book stores... however this is not what is meant by 'publishing' in the scientific sense.

  To have your scientific papers published means that you have submitted your work to an established respected journal for consideration, it is then peer reviewed and if accepted will be published. This does not then mean your paper is accepted fully by the scientific community, really it means lots more of your peers will read the paper and potentially test your hypothesis further. Here is some information on peer review from Science.. http://www.sciencemag.org/site/feature/contribinfo/RAinstr13.pdf

  Usually papers are written by Doctors in their field although technically anyone could submit a paper for review.

  This knowledge is what motivates some creationists to (a) get a doctorate from a diploma mill university and (b) create pseudo scientific journals in which to publish their 'science'.

  For an example see here http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Answers_Research_Journal
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  A big bang from a previous universe compacted into one big mass makes more sense than out of nothing....

  by EndofMysteries in

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  i've been learning a lot more about the universe, galaxies, planet formations, etc.

  it's amazing how stars are constantly recycled, they form from gathering all the dust/gas/mass around them, the heat and pressure as the mass gets larger, producing stronger gravity, and depending on it's makeup creates fusion, turning into a star, then when it dies, it turns into a supernova, explodes, and sends it's matter out there for other stars to form,etc.

  now galaxies do the same thing, and supposedly in many billons of years many galaxies will have eaten others, and if blackholes or something pulling in all the stars and mass is at the centers of these galaxies, then eventually everything would turn into one huge mass.

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  As related to abiogenesis;

  http://www.seas.harvard.edu/news/2011/02/clay-armored-bubbles-may-have-formed-first-protocells

  Interesting idea! Not sure how one would go about taking it further? Guess at the likely fossilised biogenics and look for them?
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  Changed: Head coverings for sisters, w15 2/15 QFR

  by wifibandit in

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  does a female kingdom publisher need to wear a head covering if she conducts a bible study in the presence of a male publisher?.

  in a questions from readers item published in the watchtower of july 15, 2002, it was stated that a sister should cover her head if she conducts a bible study in the presence of a male publisher, whether he is baptized or not.

  further consideration of the matter suggests that a modification to this direction is appropriate.. if the male publisher who accompanies the sister while she conducts an established bible study is baptized, the sister would certainly want to wear a head covering.

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  The thing sisters should remember is, the thicker the head covering... the more respectful you are being.

  Sometimes my dog leads us in prayer and as a bitch...

  
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  does God read our minds, or should we pray out loud?

  by sowhatnow in

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  i always wondered, can god read our thoughts?

  if he can then why cant satan?.

  i was told by my mother that god can read our minds, but satan cant satan can only hear our words and see our motives and what we do,.

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  Praying allows people feel like they are helping a situation whilst applying the very least amount of effort possible in rectifying it; with that in mind it would be best not to pray out loud as this may exert too much effort.
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  Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$

  by oneyeopen in

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  o.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.

  coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.

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  I really "couldn't care less" about you being pissed off. No one has called you racist and yet again you claim it, do you have a persecution complex?

  You must have a very simple grasp of language to assume that I was suggesting "simply refering to "gay people" is a sure sign of homophobia". Do you need everything explained to you? You generalised when you lumped gay people together when you said "but theylose support when theytry to ramrod theirbeliefs down people's throats who simply believe differently."

  "Taking the side of freedom of religion is not homophobic."

  Freedom of religion is complex and is about more than allowing the practice of religion, however allowing churches to discriminate against Gay people is homophobic. How can you say otherwise?

  Are there any other minority groups that you support discrimination against under the guise of religious freedom? Is so, who are they? If not, why make a special case for gay people?
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  Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

  by breakfast of champions in

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  2. beliefs

  this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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  Polygamy?
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  Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$

  by oneyeopen in

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  o.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.

  coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.

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  AlphaMan: I am not sure exactly what to say to you. Do you really not understand the difference between comparing homophobic statements to racist statements in an effort to demonstrate the discrimination?

  Why would a gay couple want to force a Pastor to marry them?

  I have never suggested a Pastor should be forced to marry anyone, again as I have stated multiple times but you still fail to grasp the simple concept... if someone with a marriage license wants to discriminate I believe they should have the license removed. Is that clear?

  As you do not seem to be reading the posts I will just repost what I said earlier...

  Again I am not taking this 'out of context'....

  "Gay people have gained a lot of acceptance, but they lose support when they try to ramrod their beliefs down people's throats who simply believe differently." by AlphaMan

  Here you suggest that 'gay people' (generalising is a sure fire sign of homophobia) wanting to get married is not a desire for them to express love for one another, but an effort to "ramrod their beliefs down people's throats".

  Also, being gay is not a belief. What exactly do you think "their beliefs" are?
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  Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$

  by oneyeopen in

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  o.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.

  coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.

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  AlphaMan, clearly you have trouble reading and\or understanding...

  No.....your senseless ranting about gay marriage and anyone who doesn't agree that Christian Pastors should be forced to marry them is homophobic & racist makes you sound unstable.

  You think what I have said is 'senseless'? Yes clearly AlphaMan, saying discrimination against gay people is wrong is senseless. Shame on me.

  At no point have I suggested pastors should be forced to marry gay couples. I have suggested that people that want to discriminate should not be allowed to marry anyone, the state should revoke their license.

  Again, I cannot really type slower for you to help you understand, but... I am not saying you are a racist. It was a comparison. Sometimes people make 'comparisons' to help demonstrate a point or alter a view point, this was a mistake in your case as it seems you do not understand the concept.

  So basically you think I sound unstable because of your inability to read and understand my posts on this board.
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  Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$

  by oneyeopen in

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  o.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.

  coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.

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  oneyeopen, do you have any evidence that the percentage of the population that is gay has increased?

  Am I understanding your post? Are you suggesting that gay people either ;

  • choose to be gay
  • have been 'created' gay by some environmental factors in womb
  • have become gay by exposure to something like " bisphenal A"

  Is it impossible that being born gay could be just a part of nature? You talk about it as if being gay is somehow wrong and potentially needs fixing?
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  Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$

  by oneyeopen in

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  o.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.

  coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.

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  So assuming someone is a Christian makes me sound unstable... interesting?! Apologies for calling you a Christian.

  I reposted your own comment and simply replaced homophobic with racist and gays with black. When you read the substituted post, would you say it sounds racist? I cannot really explain any more clearly. I am not saying you are racist, I am saying it is homophobic.

  I have not taken what you said "out of context", you are saying that 'gays' are allowed to be discriminated against and I am saying they should not be. If a pastor does not want to follow state marriage laws they should simply stop marrying people.

  Again I am not taking this 'out of context'....

  Gay people have gained a lot of acceptance, but they lose support when they try to ramrod their beliefs down people's throats who simply believe differently.

  Here you suggest that 'gay people' (generalising is a sure fire sign of homophobia) wanting to get married is not a desire for them to express love for one another, but an effort to "ramrod their beliefs down people's throats".

  Also, being gay is not a belief. What exactly do you think "their beliefs" are?