Posts by M*A*S*H

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Ex JW Campaign Day

hi folks, tight pants twinkle toes here - my first post.

i am the husband of the new poster finally left.

we both recently left, my wife after 43 years and 46 years for me.

Read part of your story via your other half's posts. It re-enforced my belief that creating space between a JW and the Borg is the best way to help people out (and I mean the best way an external person can help).

In your case dancing lessons helped create space. For me it was sports. For some it is just time away from meetings. Indirectly encouraging JWs with doubts to create space between themselves and the Borg HQ will allow some of the 'hard coded thinking' to melt away hopefully allowing there doubts and critical thinking skills to come to the fore.

Instead of preaching door to door again... I would rather a 'Take a doubting JW to the pub day' once a week :) Especially as I can't dance!

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1914 is the Key !

by Phizzy in

i thought this deserved its own topic.

it is a thought that occurred to me as i read the wt rag that i took to be polite.. it is the public one about the 4 horseman, and it struck me that they are still 100% reliant on their false 1914 doctrine to hang everything on.. if 1914 is proved wrong, what can the credibility of their doomsday message hang on ?.

we all know how to disprove the old 2520 years nonsense, but they seem to at last be hiding that, and simply claiming that world events prove jesus slung the devil out of heaven in 1914.. so, what has that old devil done since 1914, 103 years ago ?.

MAS*H

IMHO 1914 is not really the key to anything. The cognitive dissonance required to be a JW will overcome a change to the 1914 date, a gradual fading of the importance of the date or even a simple restating the date as 'around the year 1914'. I feel like we have a new generation of JWs less interested in biblical numerology or at least the borg seem to be de-emphasising its importance.

When the first change to the "generations" understanding came out... for the first time in my life I looked forward to the Sunday Watchtower discussion. In my mind there would be uproar, chairs thrown and a mass walk out. Not so much as a whimper

I have had a couple of discussions with Apathy Trolley Minders and noticed a lack of ability or perhaps willingness to discuss doctrine, rather they would rather 'let the literature do the talking'. Would others agree with this, I would be interested!?

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Evolution vs Creation.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

looking at the board, i see so many long threads on " evoultion vs creation " ect, ect.. therefore if " your" qualifications are only those of " an" uneducated j.w, may i ask one question?.

q) what makes you feel you are now qualified to comment with absolute ,authority on any discussion?.

i ask the above question because for most of us " ex-witnesses " logic is still words written in the pages of an awake" magazine.

MAS*H

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect

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Sun,moon, earth and mathematics .

by atomant in

just thought id let you all in on some info i found on northeasttruth.com.

that magical moment where the moon blocks out the sun!

but only just enough to perfectly cover the suns disc, whilst still allowing us to see the corona of light and other electromagnetic forces radiating from it.. this only happens because the moon diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between earth and the sun!so, when we see it from the surface of earth, we are in the only place this can ever be seen, at the only time it could ever happen.

MAS*H

This only happens because the Moon Diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the Suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between Earth and the Sun!

Err... no. Nothing is exact, I think 'roughly' would fit better. If you disagree, please explain the difference between an Annular and Total eclipse?

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Here is a pic of Stephen Lett and his wife.

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

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MAS*H

Funny, I only grin like that when my pants \ trousers are too tight.

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I believe in Evolution and that God created life

by Crabby in

anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.

MAS*H

Vidqun: Half banana, as you might have noticed, the chain of evidence, involving the laws of information and DNA, disproves the "scientific theorum" of evolution.

Just a few questions.

If the "scientific theorum" of evolution has indeed been disproved what competing theory do you feel replaced it?

Are we now back to a position of 'we do not understand DNA'? Do you have a alternate hypothesis?

From your post I am assuming you mean the entire 'Modern Synthesis' has fallen? The theory is very wide ranging? Are you saying that you have proof that the entire theory is incorrect?

When you claim that DNA could not evolve, what is your degree of certainty? Does your hypothesis mean the chance of DNA evolving is 0% or would you concede that the chance must be > 0%.

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I believe in Evolution and that God created life

by Crabby in

anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.

MAS*H

Just read through this thread, waiting for the proof that god created life? Did I miss it?

There were some arguments from personal incredulity and ignorance and of course the OP is 'kinda' begging the question.

Where is the evidence that a god, or Crabby's god created life?

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

MAS*H

Whoever managed to organise this wonderfully constructed and contrived parody of a deist v atheist group chemistry discussion, 'hat's off to you'! My favorite bit is at the end when Kate pretends to lose her grasp on reality.

To all the players... bravo.

It is parody right?

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

MAS*H

@LoveUniHateExames

I do not think it does! The word 'allow' in the definition would suggest that you tolerate things you have the power or ability to influence.

For example, IMHO it would be an improper usage of the word 'tolerate' to suggest to me that I personally 'tolerate' the murder of children in my country because I am not personally doing anything to stop it.

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Home made blood card wording (extra blood please, gimme all of the blood)

by disposable hero of hypocrisy in

yo bitches.. being a good submissive little jdub i lodged a copy of my blood card with my eldubs.

it's in their safe as we speak.

i want to counteract that document without altering the eldubs to this fact.. my doctor has agreed to put a note on the medical system (uk) saying that i've changed my mind on the blood issue, no matter what any legal-paper-waving death merchant wt representatives may sputter at my death bed.

MAS*H

Bump.

Just shifting this thread above my one on the topic.