Here online is H.L. Hastings The Three Worlds, 1854
http://www.temcat.com/3WORLDS.htm
Storrs wrote a book on The Divine Dispensations.
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The full text of one of Dunn's books is online:
Author: [Dunn, Henry], 1800-1878.
Title: Liber librorum: its structure, limitations, and purpose. A friendly communication to a reluctant sceptic.I don't think there is very much in this book that would have influenced Russell. Dunn was a Trinitarian, believed in a conscious intermediate state, but was against eternal torment, and taught a future probation for the unsaved. The kingdom would be future on earth, with Israel as the head nation. He taught that there were two salvations, a salvation for the few for the benefit of the salvation of the many - the world.
It is apparent that Russell knew of Dunn, since he quotes him. Russell uses some of the same Scriptural arguments, but their views are not identical. Russell was eclectic and formed his personal theology. He did borrow ideas from others but was discriminating and rejected what didn't fit into his own theological framework.
Some other possible sources for Russell's views:
The Three Worlds concept might have come from H.L. Hastings who wrote a booklet on the subject. Hastings was an Advent Christian with nonsectarian leanings.
There was an article on The Permission of Evil in the Bible Examiner, perhaps by Rotherham. There is a chapter on this on the Divine Plan book.
Ransom and Restitution came from Storrs and Stetson.
The Judgment Day as a 1000 year period might have come from Joseph Seiss.
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Henry Dunn lived in England and was a teacher, and not a clergyman. He wrote numerous works on theology as a layman, which is fortunate because that gave him more freedom of expression of personal views. He wrote several books on the subject of future probation/two salvations, and published a regular magazine devoted to the subject.Jacob Blain, an Adventist, wrote a book "Hope For Our Race" which summarizes the arguments of Dunn. Blain was, as I remember, a preacher of the Second Adventist church in New York, and might have been acquainted with Barbour, also from NY, and Storrs, also from NY.
Dunn is outside the reading material of the Adventists and Bible Students/JWs. So they don't have anything online for him.
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Dunn, Henry, 1800-1878 Liber librorum , its structure, limitations, and purpose : a friendly communication to a reluctant Sceptic. London : Longmans, Green, 1867. Location: MUDD LIBRARY, Divinity Call Number: RE60 D922 Status: Not Checked Out [ 2 ] Dunn, Henry, 1800-1878 Liber librorum [microform] : its structure, limitations, and purpose : a friendly communication to a reluctant sceptic. New York : Charles Scribner, 1867. Location: DIVINITY, Stacks Call Number: Fiche B4000 ATLA fiche 1985-1003. Status: Not Checked Out [ 3 ] Dunn, Henry, 1800-1878 Bill or the alternative : a letter to the Right Honourable Sir James Graham / by Henry Dunn. London : Ward, 1843. Location: MUDD, Stacks Call Number: Lah 1 Status: No item data available [ 4 ] Dunn, Henry, 1800-1878 Bill or the alternative [electronic resource] : a letter to the Right Honourable Sir James Graham, Bart., M.P., &c., &c. / by Henry Dunn. London : Ward, 1843 Location: Yale Internet Resource Call Number: None Status: No item data available [ 5 ] Dunn, Henry, 1800-1878 Destiny of the human race : a scriptural inquiry / by Henry Dunn. London : Simpkin, Marshall, [1872?] Location: MUDD, Stacks Call Number: Mpw24 D923 Status: No item data available [ 6 ] Dunn, Henry, 1800-1878 Destiny of the human race [microform] : a scriptural inquiry / by Henry Dunn. London : Simpkin, Marshall, [1872?] Location: DIVINITY, Stacks Call Number: Fiche B4000 ATLA fiche 1989-1870 Status: Not Checked Out [ 7 ] Dunn, Henry, 1800-1878 Kingdom of God, or, What is the Gospel? [microform] / by Henry Dunn. London : Simpkin, Marshall, 1868. Location: DIVINITY, Stacks Call Number: Fiche B4000 ATLA fiche 1986-2664. Status: Not Checked Out [ 8 ] Dunn, Henry, 1800-1878 Liber librorum : its structure, limitations, and purpose. A friendly communication to a reluctant sceptic. New York, C. Scribner & co., 1867. Location: MUDD, Stacks Call Number: WB 10113 Status: No item data available [ 9 ] Dunn, Henry, 1800-1878 Liber librorum: its structure, limitations, and purpose. [electronic resource] A friendly communication to a reluctant sceptic. New York, C. Scribner & co., 1867. Location: Yale Internet Resource Call Number: Online Resource Status: No item data available [ 10 ] Dunn, Henry, 1800-1878 National education, the question of questions : being an apology for the Bible in schools for the nation : with remarks on centralization and the voluntary societies, and brief notes on Lord Brougham's bill / by Henry Dunn. London : Thomas Ward and Co., 1838. Location: MUDD, Stacks Call Number: Lfa63 G5 838d Status: No item data available [ 11 ] Dunn, Henry, 1800-1878 Principles of teaching : or, The normal school manual: containing practical suggestions on the government and instruction on children. London : Pub. by the Sunday-school union, 1839. Location: MUDD, Stacks Call Number: LbaI4 837dc Status: No item data available [ 12 ] Dunn, Henry, 1800-1878 Reply to the misrepresentations of the Rev. Francis Close and others : as to the principles and pratice of the British and Foreign School Society. London : Thomas Ward and Co., 1839. Location: BEINECKE (Non-Circulating) Call Number: College Pamphlets 1250 6 Status: No item data available [ 13 ] Dunn, Henry, 1800-1878 Study of the Bible : a series of chapters intended to promote truth and unity / by Henry Dunn. New York : G.P. Putnam, 1871. Location: MUDD, Stacks Call Number: WB 10114 Status: Not Checked Out [ 14 ] Dunn, Henry, 1800-1878 Study of the Bible [microform] : a series of chapters intended to promote truth and unity / by Henry Dunn. New York : G.P. Putnam, 1871. Location: DIVINITY, Stacks Call Number: Fiche B4000 ATLA fiche 1992-0379 Status: Not Checked Out [ 15 ] Dunn, Henry, 1800-1878 Teaching; its pleasures, its trials, and its responsibilities. Being counsels for pupil-teachers, governesess [!], and others engaged in the instruction of the young. Selected and reprinted from the twenty-first edition of "Principles of teaching; or, The London, Simpkin, 1869. Location: MUDD, Stacks Call Number: Lba14 837dn Status: No item data available -
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Here is a webpage with some information about Storrs and Dunn:
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There is an excellent board on the early WT years, with information on Storrs and others.
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Technical info requested on WT printing/binding (any Bethelites out there?)
by cathyk ini'm a bookseller who's delving into the history of book production.
since i'm a collector of wt publications, i'm especially interested in any information available on the following:printers: prior to 1919, most of the books and magazines published by the wts were printed by commercial printers.
i would like to get information on which printers russell and rutherford contracted with.binding: i am interested in any information on suppliers of the bookbinding materials used by the wt.
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stev
Pastor Russell's Convention Report Sermons are online in a pdf file.
http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/contents/russell/crs.pdf
There are no photos, and the other sermons by other speakers are not included.
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Technical info requested on WT printing/binding (any Bethelites out there?)
by cathyk ini'm a bookseller who's delving into the history of book production.
since i'm a collector of wt publications, i'm especially interested in any information available on the following:printers: prior to 1919, most of the books and magazines published by the wts were printed by commercial printers.
i would like to get information on which printers russell and rutherford contracted with.binding: i am interested in any information on suppliers of the bookbinding materials used by the wt.
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stev
So far as I know, those early convention reports are not online. They are very rare. Pastor Russell's convention sermons might be online.
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Technical info requested on WT printing/binding (any Bethelites out there?)
by cathyk ini'm a bookseller who's delving into the history of book production.
since i'm a collector of wt publications, i'm especially interested in any information available on the following:printers: prior to 1919, most of the books and magazines published by the wts were printed by commercial printers.
i would like to get information on which printers russell and rutherford contracted with.binding: i am interested in any information on suppliers of the bookbinding materials used by the wt.
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stev
This is not quite on the subject, but the most interesting early BIble Student printing I have seen is the early Convention Reports published by Dr. Jones. The photos are great. It gives the best picture of the atmosphere of that period. The convention reports capture the color and attraction and comraderie of the movement at that time. The world tours, the Bible Student trains going from convention to convention, Russell's public lectures, the thousands in attendance at the conventions. The local tourist attractions at the conventions. Russell's address to the Jews at the Hippodrome, the PhotoDrama. The public advertisements. Dr. Jones probably had much liberty in what he could do with the reports.
The convention discourses show the creativity and individuality of the pilgrim speakers, some of them showing striking originality in form and content. And the testimonies and stories of the brethren show them to be lovable eccentrics.
Just about all the books on the JWs miss the colorful character of this period, and the cause of the attraction to the movement.
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This item has already been sold for $338 (this is just one issue!) . There is a photo of the issue, and information from the seller about Russell, Storrs, and Henry Dunn.
Years ago, I paged all the issues of the BIble Examiner, but no library had the years from 1872-1876. So this 1875 issue is truly rare.
The seller claims that the Russell name appeared 5 times in the Bible Examiner in the year 1875, which would prove that Russell was aware of the magazine at that time.
Storrs perhaps represented the independent liberal wing of the post-Millerite Adventists. Storrs might have been the most prominent American proponent of conditionalism, and was networked with other conditionalists, even in England, and was acquainted with their views on other subjects. His journal tended to deal with broader, more philosophical and theological issues than other Adventist papers. Russell thoroughly absorbed the arguments for ransom and restitution, future probation, from Storrs and Dunn. It was perhaps, with conditionalism, Russell's major message to the public, and the basis for "Divine Plan of the Ages" book.
However, Russell also followed Barbour's time movement, which Storrs disagreed with, and much of the sectarian, mathematical flavor of the Miller Movement entered Russell's movement through Barbour.
IMO, Russell took a wrong turn when he followed Barbour.
Russell's movement can be seen as an uneasy alliance between these two sides: the liberal/broadminded/freethinking/philosophical/theological/congregational/Storrs/ and the
sectarian/narrow/Adventist/apocalyptic/time-proof/Millerite/Barbour side.