I wonder why the RC didn't have the nerve to summon the POPE to explain Catholic policies and yet Cardinal PELL dismissed the calm of the RC as outrageous. And I thought you people were against prophecy. That's means billy is the devils helper. You calm the WTS is always changing, NOW YOU KNOW WHY! To have people understand when ignorance over shadows the basic concept of thought.
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GB member Geoffrey Jackson is lying!
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inokay, i know the royal commission hasn't started yet.
but i'm confident enough that he will be telling some whoppers.
so i thought i'd be the first to get a thread started for something that will begin... very soon now!.
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Evolution is not even a theory! So says the WTBTS writing dept!!
by DATA-DOG inhas anyone read the new awake ragazine??
it's a doozy!!
i thought we had a thread concerning this subject, but i can't find it.
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Since that thread is from an EXJW, does this mean you’re against an EXJW opinion? Don’t you people like stick together. What are people supposed to do when they read your threads, that all of you are bitter liars. Make up your mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh! By the way DD before you start with your commoner insults, right back at you.
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For those of you "not baptised" and too afraid to front the RC. WT is hoping you won't come forward.
by umbertoecho inhello to those following what is going in australia with our royal commission.. i want to let all those abused, neglected, shunned and blamed that i understand why you may not front the rc.
the wtbts is hoping you will consider yourself an invalid complainant, because you are not or were not.....baptised.
if you were abused at a young age and you told on your dad or the bad man that did it.......you would have been taken aside by the overseer and read scriptures about lying and being immoral; even if you didn't know what that word meant.
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You’re making false claims that the RC is criminally investigating organizations which include Jehovah’s Witnesses. THEY ARE NOT. This body was formed to recommend by interviewing ALL institutions in Australia to better serve victims such as child sexual abuse in Australia. A solution that was reached in 2013 to ALL civilized countries in this world.
If your ignorance would be correct, then they would have to charge criminally every institution that is for review including all religions in Australia.
Some of you such as mentally diseased people like AZOR are taking away from the seriousness of a problem that it has been throughout the world.
The Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse is investigating how institutions like schools, churches, sports clubs and government organizations have responded to allegations and instances of child sexual abuse.
It is the job of the Royal Commission to uncover where systems have failed to protect children so it can make recommendations on how to improve laws, policies and practices.
The Royal Commission is about creating a safer future for children. It can look at any private, public or non-government organization that is, or was in the past, involved with children. This includes where an organization caring for a child is responsible for the abuse or for not responding appropriately, regardless of where or when the abuse took place.
The Royal Commission’s Report of Case Study no.10 – the Salvation Army’s handling of claims of child sexual abuse 1989 to 2014 was released today. The public hearing was held in March 2014 and examined The Salvation Army’s Eastern Territory’s response to claims of child sexual abuse at children’s homes it operated. Read the full report http://bit.ly/1SUzWig
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The Royal Commission has today published research in which children and young people have identified what institutions should do to help them feel safe and be safe. The research, "Taking Us Seriously: Children and young people talk about safety and institutional responses to their safety concerns" was conducted by the Australian Catholic University in partnership with Griffith University and the Queensland University of Technology. More information http://bit.ly/1KKNOtG
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So your ideology would mean ALL religions are CULTS and HARMFUL to children and society. Some of you really need a shrink. So I don't need to start a thread when there is so much misrepresentation within your own here.
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For those of you "not baptised" and too afraid to front the RC. WT is hoping you won't come forward.
by umbertoecho inhello to those following what is going in australia with our royal commission.. i want to let all those abused, neglected, shunned and blamed that i understand why you may not front the rc.
the wtbts is hoping you will consider yourself an invalid complainant, because you are not or were not.....baptised.
if you were abused at a young age and you told on your dad or the bad man that did it.......you would have been taken aside by the overseer and read scriptures about lying and being immoral; even if you didn't know what that word meant.
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neglected, shunned and blamed that i understand why you may not front the rc
Do you even know what your writing about, and what the purpose of the RC is? read their pamphlet again, and stop distorting their intent for their inquiry FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[Day 4 - 31/7]The Royal Commissions investigation of child sexual abuse within Jehovah’s Witnesses. + VIDEO
by C0ntr013r inby popular demand i give you day 4, and i will finally get a couple of days to sleep .
part 1 has been uploaded and part 2,3 and 4 will soon be available.. part 1:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lmlcdqesa0&list=plpq6kz-aghvqbadlzmqn26dvmpzddxlui&index=11.
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And to think I thought you people were on to something. What a disappointment that the RC is investigating ALL ENTITIES in Australia. EXJWdubs misrepresentation once again.
A Royal Commission is a special investigation into a matter of great importance.
The community is concerned about widespread reports of cases in Australia where institutions have failed to protect children under their responsibility from sexual abuse.
Six Commissioners were appointed in January 2013 to investigate where institutions failed to protect children or to respond properly to allegations and incidents of child sexual abuse. The abuse may have happened a long time ago, or recently.
The Commissioners can look at any private, public or non-government institution in Australia that is, or was in the past, involved with children.
The Royal Commission will make recommendations on how to improve laws, policies and practices in Australia to provide a safer future for children.
The Catholic Church is next.
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In View of R.C.hearing of J.W.& child Sexual Abuse in Aust. and it`s Worldwide Coverage.can we expect ....?
by smiddy inare we likely to see a definite drop in new bible studies , interest in the religion ,a drop in meeting attendance ,especially in lands where this is widely reported ?
or even an exodus from many in the congregations who may view this as the last straw ?.
their have only been 3 days of this inquiry so far and the incompetence of the elders to articulate their position is painful to observe , they are ignorant to the extreme .showing a total disinterest in the whole proceedings.. when questioned , they have not bothered to understand the purpose of the commission , nor read any of the previous days proceedings ,nor have they bothered to read the victims statement ,and have shown a total disregard for the whole procedure .. surely any thinking person with half a brain would back away from any involvement with this religion .. i am overjoyed that this inquiry is getting worldwide media attention ,i hope you are too .. i commented on an article in ghana africa that ran with this story , so the sexual abuse of children within the jehovah`s witness organization is getting worldwide coverage .. what do you think ?.
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Simonsays......."I'm a self-righteous d-bag!" As usual, you can't help but use passive agressive attacks.DATA DOG
Well it takes one to know one right. But as always I don't expect anything less from a low life.
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In View of R.C.hearing of J.W.& child Sexual Abuse in Aust. and it`s Worldwide Coverage.can we expect ....?
by smiddy inare we likely to see a definite drop in new bible studies , interest in the religion ,a drop in meeting attendance ,especially in lands where this is widely reported ?
or even an exodus from many in the congregations who may view this as the last straw ?.
their have only been 3 days of this inquiry so far and the incompetence of the elders to articulate their position is painful to observe , they are ignorant to the extreme .showing a total disinterest in the whole proceedings.. when questioned , they have not bothered to understand the purpose of the commission , nor read any of the previous days proceedings ,nor have they bothered to read the victims statement ,and have shown a total disregard for the whole procedure .. surely any thinking person with half a brain would back away from any involvement with this religion .. i am overjoyed that this inquiry is getting worldwide media attention ,i hope you are too .. i commented on an article in ghana africa that ran with this story , so the sexual abuse of children within the jehovah`s witness organization is getting worldwide coverage .. what do you think ?.
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That’s why I stipulated, children, parents. If a child is not conscience to understand what is happening, then an adult steps in to assist if seen. The severity of offensive is defined by secular law. Unless a church member is willing to accept the offense, clergy cannot force that member into admission. Especially under suppressed memory. That ignorance is saturated here.
Restitution to God is Repentance. That would mean, that persons proof of self worth to be forgiven by the people that persons harmed through Gods Grace in forgiveness. Secular punishment through mans law is NOT part of that. As I stated before, don’t confuse the two.
You statement that mans laws as written cannot comply a clergy to validate the persons claim is not correct. Where there is mandated reporting many churches complies with this law, including the JWs. Many will actively encourage a victim to report to police even if this is not an obligation imposed by law. Listner
The Catholic Church is the foremost to defend the right of confession (confessional privilege). Since 2013 the clergy mandate to report child abuse let’s say in the United States has been enacted in 27 States. I referenced the severity of the crime. The point I was making is EXJWdubs here expect and elder to force a person to admit the crime to turn them in. That coercion under United States and International Law is illegal, yet this is the rhetoric that should be accepted, Wrong Sir. That would be up to the victims and secular law to decide.
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In View of R.C.hearing of J.W.& child Sexual Abuse in Aust. and it`s Worldwide Coverage.can we expect ....?
by smiddy inare we likely to see a definite drop in new bible studies , interest in the religion ,a drop in meeting attendance ,especially in lands where this is widely reported ?
or even an exodus from many in the congregations who may view this as the last straw ?.
their have only been 3 days of this inquiry so far and the incompetence of the elders to articulate their position is painful to observe , they are ignorant to the extreme .showing a total disinterest in the whole proceedings.. when questioned , they have not bothered to understand the purpose of the commission , nor read any of the previous days proceedings ,nor have they bothered to read the victims statement ,and have shown a total disregard for the whole procedure .. surely any thinking person with half a brain would back away from any involvement with this religion .. i am overjoyed that this inquiry is getting worldwide media attention ,i hope you are too .. i commented on an article in ghana africa that ran with this story , so the sexual abuse of children within the jehovah`s witness organization is getting worldwide coverage .. what do you think ?.
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If it is to Correct an injustice for the people of Australia, then God will see if any wrong doing in behalf of Elders to their flock were harmed will be rectified under God’s hands. The embodiments of responsible people hold the majority of challenges. They are human just as you EXJWdubs here. The very same way you people were kicked out the same can happen to Elders or Governing Body.
As humans their just as fallible as the next person. If God made this event to be shown, then to clean house just as in the past, Yahweh’s will; will be done.
However keep in mind that no religion under secular law has been obligated to disenfranchise it’s sacrament to hold confessions other than to have the person repent or reject consul like the majority of you EXJWdubs did in your case that has caused you to be embittered.
Any religious organization has no legal authority to condemn or charge a person with a secular crime as indicated by ignorance here. As mentioned, people with half a brain can see beyond your narcissism and have a compassionate determination to children that have been abused. Those children, parents, have every right to seek justice through mans laws. However mans laws have nothing to do with God’s laws as mentioned by Christ himself. So you cannot intertwine the both.
Repentance is only for the soul. To show God you accepted the consequences for your misdeeds and wish to start new. This is once again for your soul that the churches look for. Anything more serious, the victims are obligated to show just cause to bring charges upon a person. It's the victims obligation to have that person arrested and convicted. To have that person pay for the serious crime, not the church. If a church finds through confession and that confession evil, then The proper authorities get notified. However mans laws as written cannot compile a clergy to under go validating the persons claims, that's up for the law to get the proof needed to being somone to justice.
If mans laws punish people for a crime, them those people will serve whatever punishment mans law give people, without having to confuse the notion between the both.
None of you have repented for whatever drove you out, then how can an organization punish someone spiritually if they defy God as you people have done here for 15 years.
Someone on another thread advised me before I judge someone look first at the log in my eye before you see the spic in theirs. These Double standards of EXJWdubs only reflects embodiment of double tongue.
May the victims of all crimes find peace with God.
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Why hasn’t someone gotten real pissed off yet?
by John Aquila ini keep reading of some guy who is so upset at someone that he goes into a theater and shoots 20 people..
or a kid that is so mad that the other kids made fun of him that he goes to school and shoots a bunch of kids..
or some guy that was fired from his job and he goes back and shoots of bunch of his workers.
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this sad moment, CNN is reporting breaking news of a shooting in a Louisiana theater. rebel8
5 HOURS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FU Simon says. This thread started prior to the news breaking.
i wouldN'T expect anything less of a response from a lower life.
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Why hasn’t someone gotten real pissed off yet?
by John Aquila ini keep reading of some guy who is so upset at someone that he goes into a theater and shoots 20 people..
or a kid that is so mad that the other kids made fun of him that he goes to school and shoots a bunch of kids..
or some guy that was fired from his job and he goes back and shoots of bunch of his workers.
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How sad and pathetic it must be to civilization when ignorance of a tragic incident in Louisiana USA sparks an ideological discussion about religion on the back of their tragedy, how petty you people really are. The thought of relatives thinking of just their slayed relatives on their hour of grief would want to read this garbage. You people should be ashamed of yourselves.