Posts by SimonSays

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Do you believe Jehovah's Witnesses' Governing Body is the "faithful slave"?

by Marvin Shilmer in

this question is known to be posed by jws to other jws as an acid test of loyalty.

i'm not the first to notice what i'm about to point out and comment accordingly, but today i felt compelled to add a short article on my blog highlighting the new language that governing body member geoffrey jackson supplies as a response.

a person who honestly hesitates to respond with a robust "yes!

SimonSays

Let’s study just this one observation. I love when people think they know theology. To this nameless person, the word “OBEY” trips him. This is APOSTATE 101 since this person view belongs to millions of EXJWs.

And we should blindly obey them: w13 11/15 p. 20 par. 17
All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. “SPLASH”

MERRIAM-WEBSTER

OBEY:

1: to follow the commands or guidance of

2: to conform to or comply with <obey an order> <falling objects obey the laws of physics>

intransitive verb: to behave obediently

Now the God of Abraham, Jacob, and Isaac requires one thing, does this class know what that is, right, you guess it.

This fellow must have been a radical in his day, and the way he writes still is. It seems through ignorance suggest that NO ONE is OBEDIENT. I guess NONE of YOU OBEY secular laws, parents, spouses that tell us, “don’t open the door, its JW”, our employer, silly me, I thought I lived in earth. I guess when you see a stop sign, none of you stop. When you see a RED LIGHT, you people DON’T STOP either. No wonder there’s a lot of auto accidents in the world, now I know it’s the DISOBEDIENT PEOPLE. BLIND OBEDIENCE. Hmm, what a devastating concept. That means 8 billion people have been thinking wrong. I’m shocked, SYRIA! or PRACTICAL OBEDIENCE to the things as of this point some of us have been taught to obey out of consideration and conscious. Now I’m not talking about you, you little devil, I’m speaking about rational people.

The GB would have us believe they are more qualified than the apostles. Not even the Catholic Church are this haughty. “SPLASH”

Interesting observance. More qualified than apostles. The Catholic church equates the Bishops as Apostles, under their 4th canon creed (APOSTOLIC SEE) but not more. The GB that I know of in 100 years claim to be fulfilling the slave class not the apostolic class, since Jesus outright made that distention, and the GB is basing themselves of being the FDS under that understanding which falls under the apostles not above them, since the slave class has no powers to heal. Wow! 1.4 billion Christians wrong again, you people have your work cut out to email ALL churches that believe they have the healing power.

What is the observation of a penitent man by having people believe in the removal of sin through penance? Who gave them that power, Jah, Jesus, the Apostles since the first Pope built the HOLY SEE on TOP of Peters rock under that assertion. Oh! Yeah, that would mean the Holy SEE is haughtier.

WATCHTOWER 2013 NOVEMBER 15

The prophecy about seven shepherds and eight dukes has its major fulfillment in our day.

Cor. 10:4; Eph. 6:17.

17 Elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered:

(1) The most practical step that we can take to prepare for the coming attack of

“the Assyrian” is that of strengthening our faith in God and helping our brothers to do the same.

(3) ALL of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.

ALL OF US, which include the slave class must be ready to obey who? JAH by any instructions we may receive. Salvation is inconvenient to all the faithful who heed the prophecy of Micah as in ancient ASSYRIA that God’s people be prepared to meet the modern day ASSYRIANS which in part is you people with your attacks.

Reference Watchtower 2013 July 15

It is vital that we recognize the faithful slave. Our spiritual health and our relationship with God depend on this channel. Matt. 4:4; John 17:3.

So while you people might think of what one word might mean to the person who said it, if you can read minds, stop speculating.

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Do you believe Jehovah's Witnesses' Governing Body is the "faithful slave"?

by Marvin Shilmer in

this question is known to be posed by jws to other jws as an acid test of loyalty.

i'm not the first to notice what i'm about to point out and comment accordingly, but today i felt compelled to add a short article on my blog highlighting the new language that governing body member geoffrey jackson supplies as a response.

a person who honestly hesitates to respond with a robust "yes!

SimonSays

This is interesting. In this world, anyone believing that had a calling through the holy spirit is viewed as a hierarchy, yet through rhetorical devices you single out the GB. AJW rhetoric, got to love it. Better email the Pontiff to let him know that he’s mistaken about papal infallibility and worldwide Bishops are liars according to you people, since they hold themselves to a higher standard than the GB. The Pope speaks directly with God, and the Bishops are Apostles according to their creed.

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Please reach out to Te New Yorker

by Jonathan Drake in

i have found an article on their website that moved me to contact them.

i share it here hoping more will contact in a similar vein and maybe we can raise awareness and tear down this propaganda.

i'm writing regarding an article about jehovah's witnesses and their blood transfusion doctrine, found here:http://tinyurl.com/pxku9dgit is clear to me, reading this article, that it's writer is either profoundly ignorant or profoundly biased.

SimonSays

It’s within the frame work of progress that she is relating to. The makeup of blood transfusions was never a cure all from a scientific perspective. Other fusion able material worked just as well in WW2. Now, science has enough insight to produce a reliable substitute or alternative. However, science has always maintained the risk with blood transfusions. So to say, JWs sign their lives away is no riskier when a doctor tells you to sign a document that underlines all those risks associated with a BT. So it becomes a CHOICE of the individual.

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As a Matter of Conscience, I Am Resigning from the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses

by Sail Away in

after listening to the hearings of the australian royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse, i am no longer content to have simply walked away from the organization.

as a matter of conscience, i do not want my name linked with the organization in any way.

i know this letter has been posted previously, and i thank the author.

SimonSays

Bravo, you guys keep up the good work, anyone else has a letter they care to share.

Examples of such religious practices may include a formal announcement of my non-member status before the [named] Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses, shunning, intentional infliction of emotional distress, harassment, slander, invasion of privacy, etc. Should you engage in any such conduct towards me, I will immediately and fully utilize all legal means to stop those acts. Any and all of the above-named parties may be held jointly and severally responsible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_association

But then in Braunfeld v. Brown (1961) the Supreme Court seemed to suggest that the Free Exercise Clause might sometimes constitutionally mandate exemptions. And in Sherbert v. Verner (1963), the Court expressly adopted the constitutional exemption model, under which sincere religious objectors had a presumptive constitutional right to an exemption. Wisconsin v. Yoder (1972) reaffirmed this, and the period from 1963 to 1990 is often labeled the Sherbert/Yoder era of Free Exercise Clause law.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/2015-state-rfra-legislation.aspx

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Do you believe Jehovah's Witnesses' Governing Body is the "faithful slave"?

by Marvin Shilmer in

this question is known to be posed by jws to other jws as an acid test of loyalty.

i'm not the first to notice what i'm about to point out and comment accordingly, but today i felt compelled to add a short article on my blog highlighting the new language that governing body member geoffrey jackson supplies as a response.

a person who honestly hesitates to respond with a robust "yes!

SimonSays

Do you believe Jehovah's Witnesses' Governing Body is the "faithful slave"

For an individual among Jehovah's Witnesses faced with the acid test question, what is my recommendation?

I agree with Governing Body member Geoffrey Jackson. The Governing Body views itself as trying to fulfill the role of the biblical 'faithful slave,' but it would be presumptuous to say the Governing Body is the only spokesperson that God is using. I don't see any sense in speculating beyond this. Do you?

The failure with apostate ideology is they always grab at straws. Reviewing the question and answers given by Geoffrey Jackson while seemly making a compiling argument for the opposition? We would need to understand that this were his personal views. His Answers were not Collective or tethered to the governing body. So YES EXJW’s would be wrong in not having the ability to separate fact from fiction, but it is expected.

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GB member Geoffrey Jackson is lying!

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

okay, i know the royal commission hasn't started yet.

but i'm confident enough that he will be telling some whoppers.

so i thought i'd be the first to get a thread started for something that will begin... very soon now!.

SimonSays

I wonder why the RC didn't have the nerve to summon the POPE to explain Catholic policies and yet Cardinal PELL dismissed the calm of the RC as outrageous. And I thought you people were against prophecy. That's means billy is the devils helper. You calm the WTS is always changing, NOW YOU KNOW WHY! To have people understand when ignorance over shadows the basic concept of thought.

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Evolution is not even a theory! So says the WTBTS writing dept!!

by DATA-DOG in

has anyone read the new awake ragazine??

it's a doozy!!

i thought we had a thread concerning this subject, but i can't find it.

SimonSays

Since that thread is from an EXJW, does this mean you’re against an EXJW opinion? Don’t you people like stick together. What are people supposed to do when they read your threads, that all of you are bitter liars. Make up your mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh! By the way DD before you start with your commoner insults, right back at you.

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For those of you "not baptised" and too afraid to front the RC. WT is hoping you won't come forward.

by umbertoecho in

hello to those following what is going in australia with our royal commission.. i want to let all those abused, neglected, shunned and blamed that i understand why you may not front the rc.

the wtbts is hoping you will consider yourself an invalid complainant, because you are not or were not.....baptised.

if you were abused at a young age and you told on your dad or the bad man that did it.......you would have been taken aside by the overseer and read scriptures about lying and being immoral; even if you didn't know what that word meant.

SimonSays

You’re making false claims that the RC is criminally investigating organizations which include Jehovah’s Witnesses. THEY ARE NOT. This body was formed to recommend by interviewing ALL institutions in Australia to better serve victims such as child sexual abuse in Australia. A solution that was reached in 2013 to ALL civilized countries in this world.

If your ignorance would be correct, then they would have to charge criminally every institution that is for review including all religions in Australia.

Some of you such as mentally diseased people like AZOR are taking away from the seriousness of a problem that it has been throughout the world.

The Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse is investigating how institutions like schools, churches, sports clubs and government organizations have responded to allegations and instances of child sexual abuse.

It is the job of the Royal Commission to uncover where systems have failed to protect children so it can make recommendations on how to improve laws, policies and practices.

The Royal Commission is about creating a safer future for children. It can look at any private, public or non-government organization that is, or was in the past, involved with children. This includes where an organization caring for a child is responsible for the abuse or for not responding appropriately, regardless of where or when the abuse took place.

The Royal Commission’s Report of Case Study no.10 – the Salvation Army’s handling of claims of child sexual abuse 1989 to 2014 was released today. The public hearing was held in March 2014 and examined The Salvation Army’s Eastern Territory’s response to claims of child sexual abuse at children’s homes it operated. Read the full report http://bit.ly/1SUzWig

3 hours ago

The Royal Commission has today published research in which children and young people have identified what institutions should do to help them feel safe and be safe. The research, "Taking Us Seriously: Children and young people talk about safety and institutional responses to their safety concerns" was conducted by the Australian Catholic University in partnership with Griffith University and the Queensland University of Technology. More information http://bit.ly/1KKNOtG

9 hours ago

So your ideology would mean ALL religions are CULTS and HARMFUL to children and society. Some of you really need a shrink. So I don't need to start a thread when there is so much misrepresentation within your own here.

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For those of you "not baptised" and too afraid to front the RC. WT is hoping you won't come forward.

by umbertoecho in

hello to those following what is going in australia with our royal commission.. i want to let all those abused, neglected, shunned and blamed that i understand why you may not front the rc.

the wtbts is hoping you will consider yourself an invalid complainant, because you are not or were not.....baptised.

if you were abused at a young age and you told on your dad or the bad man that did it.......you would have been taken aside by the overseer and read scriptures about lying and being immoral; even if you didn't know what that word meant.

SimonSays

neglected, shunned and blamed that i understand why you may not front the rc

Do you even know what your writing about, and what the purpose of the RC is? read their pamphlet again, and stop distorting their intent for their inquiry FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Day 4 - 31/7]The Royal Commissions investigation of child sexual abuse within Jehovah’s Witnesses. + VIDEO

by C0ntr013r in

by popular demand i give you day 4, and i will finally get a couple of days to sleep .

part 1 has been uploaded and part 2,3 and 4 will soon be available.. part 1:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lmlcdqesa0&list=plpq6kz-aghvqbadlzmqn26dvmpzddxlui&index=11.

SimonSays

And to think I thought you people were on to something. What a disappointment that the RC is investigating ALL ENTITIES in Australia. EXJWdubs misrepresentation once again.

A Royal Commission is a special investigation into a matter of great importance.

The community is concerned about widespread reports of cases in Australia where institutions have failed to protect children under their responsibility from sexual abuse.

Six Commissioners were appointed in January 2013 to investigate where institutions failed to protect children or to respond properly to allegations and incidents of child sexual abuse. The abuse may have happened a long time ago, or recently.

The Commissioners can look at any private, public or non-government institution in Australia that is, or was in the past, involved with children.

The Royal Commission will make recommendations on how to improve laws, policies and practices in Australia to provide a safer future for children.

The Catholic Church is next.