Good luck Barb & Joe. I think the clear link between your being disfellowshipped and your whistle-blowing on the Society's sick child abuse policy definitely brings this into the realm of a community safety issue that might give cause for the Court to seriously look at this. Lately there have been indications that the Judiciary is perhaps shifting towards a less tolerant view of the culpability of religious leaders for child abuse occuring in their midst. Now is probably a good time to test these issues again in Court.
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Banned church member sues Jehovah's Witnesses
by izobcenec ina normandy resident who was disfellowshipped from jehovah's witnesses is suing the organization for $7 million on grounds the alleged action against her was wrong.
barbara joanna anderson filed the lawsuit thursday in coffee county circuit court.. she is seeking $2 million in compensatory damages, plus $5 million in punitive damages.. the defendants are listed as:.
* watchtower bible and tract society of new york inc.. * watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania inc.. * watchtower enterprises llc.. * watchtower foundation inc.. * watchtower associates ltd.. * kingdom support services inc.. * christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses.. * religious order of jehovah's witnesses.. * the watchtower group inc.. * manchester congregation of jehovah's witnesses elders.. * lawrence a. seely, gary hobson, dale dormanen, robert e. matthews, david semonian, j.r. brown, and john does no.
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The WTS admits the remnant are frauds!
by headmath inquote.
***yb75 p. 157 part 2. .
after the 1935 convention, some who previously partook of the emblematic bread and wine at observances of the lords evening meal ceased partaking.
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yaddayadda
Very good point headmath. This proves that the reason that 99.9% of JW's do not take the emblems is more about doctrinal conditioning and the norms of the religious group than anything else. The fact that all Christians in the first century congregations took the emblems, whereas only a puny fraction of JW's take them, should be disturbing to any JW.
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Philosophy - Alain de Botton
by yaddayadda ini must admit i enjoy reading a bit of philosophy now and then.
nothing too heavy going, mainly condensed versions of the great philosophers and lighter, modern stuff.
rousseau and schopenhauer are my favourites because their prose is so enjoy to read from a literary perspective.
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I must admit I enjoy reading a bit of philosophy now and then. Nothing too heavy going, mainly condensed versions of the great philosophers and lighter, modern stuff. Rousseau and Schopenhauer are my favourites because their prose is so enjoy to read from a literary perspective. Has Anyone read Alain de Botton's books? I love them, especially 'The Consolations of Philosophy' and 'Status Anxiety'. I have yet to read 'How Proust can Change your Life'. Has anyone read his latest book 'The Architecture of Happiness'? Can you recommend it? Sorry about the lack of paragraphing in this thread....it seems this website doesn't support Mozilla Firefox very well.
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What has Ray Franz said about the NGO thing?
by yaddayadda ini e-d ray and asked him.
he gave a nice reply (a lengthy stock reply with brief personal comments to me cut and pasted into it) saying that he commented on the ngo thing in the latest edition of crisis of conscience.
unfortunately i have an older edition of coc so i'd be most grateful if someone could type up what he said in his latest edition...unless that is a breach of copyright?
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I e-d Ray and asked him. He gave a nice reply (a lengthy stock reply with brief personal comments to me cut and pasted into it) saying that he commented on the NGO thing in the latest edition of Crisis of Conscience. Unfortunately I have an older edition of COC so I'd be most grateful if someone could type up what he said in his latest edition...unless that is a breach of copyright?
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Is the WTS still an NGO? 2005 OSCE Conference
by blondie insupposedly the wts withdrew as an ngo associated with the un in 2001.. .
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:evakqe83wbsj:osce.usmission.gov/cordoba/cordoba_ngos.pdf+%22european+union%22+watchtower+&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=6.
june 8 and 9, 2005. list of ngos attending osce conference (cordoba).
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I'm convinced that the Society has somehow rationalised in their minds that their UN dealings are in the same bracket as their dealings with the Supreme Court or European Court, where they have aggresively fought legal battles. It's all just part and parcel of the 'earth' that swallows up the dragon's water. They seem not to feel that the UN is really political and is more a protector of human rights like the Courts are. Probably think they are oh so clever for using some of Satan's elements against him. How would you define the UN? I believe it is more or less just a multilateral treaty. Is a treaty a legal or political arrangement, or both? Doesn't change the fact that they are hypocritical for critizing other religions for hooking up with the UN.
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A New Earth--Eckhart Tolle
by moanzy inanyone have a chance to read this book?
it's very good and an easy read.
if you like "the power of now" you will like this one.
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yaddayadda
I read it and didn't care for it much. Some good points on relationships but generally he's way too 'out there'. A much better, more grounded book is 'The Secret of Letting Go' by Guy Finley. It was a profound, mystical experience reading that book and I have never forgotten it's lessons. I still practice them regularly.
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The Seven Thunders of Millennial Dawn!
by Atlantis indr. shadduck 1928 edition.
i retyped out a couple of pages that were weak, however, if you still need a page or section retyped, then just send me a pm.
any copyrights on this booklet would have been discontinued many years ago.
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yaddayadda
This is a keeper. Could someone kindly pop it into the 'best of' series.
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Better DVD out there than "The God Who Wasn't There (2005)"?
by Xander ina well-advertised dvd covering the argument that jesus did not exist.
linkage.
now, i've certainly done a lot of on- and off- line research on the topic, and 99% of this is repetition to me.
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I think you'll struggle to find what you're after, simply because there is no 'evidence, backed up by facts' that supports atheism. Atheism is just intellectual bravado, in the same way that fervent religiosity is ardent faith. The only happy medium is open-minded scepticism.
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A really good book about Watchtower history
by Gary1914 ini recently discovered a great book which i would like to recommend.
it is called a people for his name and it was written by a jehovah's witness named timothy white.
i love this book and it helps one to see the origins of many things taught by the witnessing such as disfellowshipping and the blood doctrine.
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damn I want this book. Someone start scanning it, please.
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Come One Come All Deliverence is near Get your Convention Program here
by Tea4Two in"deliverance at hand" is the theme for the jehovah's witnesses district convention may 26 to 28 at the resch center.
serving parts of wisconsin, michigan and the upper peninsula, the convention opens the season for district meetings throughout the united states.
nearly 11 million people attended the 2,981 district conventions last year.
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Conventions these days are mainly just boring, contrived experiences, interviews and demonstrations. All fluff and padding. The Society says its wicked for kids to attend birthdays because we shouldn't put ourselves on a pedestal, but at every convention or assembly they have loads of loyal dubbies come out onto the stage to tell everyone how clever and righteous they are.