Simple, the organization has them all to busy with the meetings, peddling magazines, marking up the publications, etc, to worry about doing genuinely meaningful acts of Christian kindness.
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Why don't JW friends come over and say hello?
by JH ini always wondered why jw's didn't stop by to say hello, just to encourage or by friendship?.
but if i showed up at the hall, after many months, they would be happy to see me, and would come to talk to me, and ask what,s going on in my life as if they were really interested in me.
so, if they were happy to see me at the hall, why wouldn't they be happy showing up at my place too.. why is it that only the elders come over to see me once in a blue moon?.
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ITHINKISEE Update: My fleshly JW sister says I am Satanic and dangerous
by ithinkisee ini went to my dad's house for christmas.
it was the first christmas we celebrated together since i was 5 years old.
it was my kid's and [freedomloverr's] very first christmas ever.. .
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Her big flaw is in thinking that by turning your back on the organisation you are turning your back on Jehovah. If you still believe in God then it would've really diffused the situation by stating that you still believe in Jehovah. That's what I emphasise to my relatives and it generally works.
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Beyond JW, another former Witness site.
by free2beme ini mentioned one time, on a past thread, that the first former witness site i found was this site called beyond jw and it was run by a man named tim campbell.
it was not the level of quality of this site, but it had some good information and links and a message board.
while i did not visit the board, like i visit this one, for a long time i thought it was the only former witness site and got familiar with it.
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Looks like he has simply lost his faith.
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Pat Robertson Prediction
by robhic ini didn't see this anywhere here, so thought you might be amused by this story.. i was watching fox news this morning.
they had a quick story about ole pat robertson predicting a major terrorist strike in the us sometime after september of 2007. millions would be affected (he didn't specify killed or what, just affected...).
but the kicker was this:.
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Woopdeedoo...
Since 9/11 everyone has suspected its only a matter of time before there is another major terrorist attack on the US. Even the Pentagon admits it.
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Lyman Swingle (GB) told me what would bring down the Organization!
by new boy init was about 15 years ago.......... i was at a one day special event in woodburn or.
i was talking to lyman swingle about how the society could save some money.
it was a crazy idea ( to crazy to relate here)...............anyway he laughed and said to me.. "brother..........we have always had the money to do the things we needed to do.......and if we didn't.......we felt it was god's holy spirit telling us, it wasn't what we should be doing".......so...i said "so the money is like a barometer, no approval, no money"......he said "yea..... i guess you could say that!
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Didn't Charles Russell say in the very first Watchtower in 1879? that it will continue as long as God provides the funds and if the funds ever dry up it will mean God wants the Watchtower to stop.
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How is the Mystery Doctrine from The Three Worlds still playing out
by yaddayadda inthis is an intriguing subject that the new book "the four presidents of the watch tower society (jehovah's witnesses)": edited by edmond c. gruss, apparently discusses.
anyone know what this 'three worlds' thing is about?
what is this 'mystery doctrine' that the society once taught?
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Thank you very much Coco and others. Very interesting.
The following quotes are spooky given the theme of next year's District Conventions, ie, "Follow The Christ"? Perhaps the Society is going to resuscitate this hoary old chestnut of a teaching:
1911: Christ composed of many members (1 Cor. 12:12) The Messiah is prepared/ is first, followed by the Apostles and then various other members of the body through the Gospel age. "This age will end when the full number of the 'elect' shall have been found and tested. Then the body will have been completed. When The Messiah is complete, The Christ will be complete." p. 165/from WT Reprints, 6/15/1911, p. 4841
THE HARP OF GOD, by JFR, p. 187:
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The Society Isn't about Money. The Governing Body isn't the Illuminati.
by under_believer inno, it's not a vast conspiracy for the governing body to get rich.
it's about power and control, but not personal power and control.
the watchtower society is a living, nigh-sentient entity unto itself.
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I agree entirely that it is not about money and personal riches or personal power. This aspect is greatly exaggerated.
It's my belief that they only thing that would ever destroy the organisation is if they did the unbelievable in the minds of the average JW: accepted the 'false teachings' of Christendom. That is what happened to the WCG after Herbert Armstrong died.
But as long as the WTS keeps teaching their unorthodox combination of core beliefs that for the most part are traced back to Charles Russell, ie, non-trinity, mortality of the soul, kingdom government rule over a paradise earth, and earthly and heavenly resurrections, they will always attract a large, loyal following no matter what happens to prominent individuals within the WTS.
Actually, your argument would probably be taken by the typical JW to be proof that it is the one true religion, because no matter what scandals or changes of personnel/leadership occur within it, JW's feel that if it is God's then it won't be stopped. Thus JW's sincerely believe that nothing can really harm the Society, no matter how big the scandal. -
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How is the Mystery Doctrine from The Three Worlds still playing out
by yaddayadda inthis is an intriguing subject that the new book "the four presidents of the watch tower society (jehovah's witnesses)": edited by edmond c. gruss, apparently discusses.
anyone know what this 'three worlds' thing is about?
what is this 'mystery doctrine' that the society once taught?
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This is an intriguing subject that the new book "The Four Presidents of the Watch Tower Society (Jehovah's Witnesses)": edited by Edmond C. Gruss, apparently discusses.
Anyone know what this 'Three Worlds' thing is about? What is this 'Mystery Doctrine' that the Society once taught? I vaguely recall hearing it from my childhood.
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Knorr on 1914: "I don't know." - Mouthy Alert!
by compound complex indear mouthy and other denounced ones,.
you may find this double standard $%^@#@*&!
"in 1975, knorr made a remarkable and candid statement to the governing body, which confirmed his growing disillusionment until his death two years later: ["]'"there are some things i know --- i know that jehovah is god, that christ jesus is his son, that he gave his life as a ransom for us, that there is a resurrection.
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Just more astonishing double standards and hypocrisy.
The GB are free to hold and express doubts about and vote against certain of their own teachings, yet rank and file publishers are hauled up before JC's on charges of 'apostatsy' and 'causing divisions' for doing the same thing. -
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Do other religions have questions you're not allowed to ask ?
by A Paduan inthere seem to be certain unanswerable questions that only "apostates" would ask - ones that sort of send up a flare.. do other religions have these "you must be the debbil" fears of thought ?.
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I can remember praising people on the doors for asking questions. We got a bit excited when a householder seemed interested enough to ask questions. I can even remember telling a bible study that their asking questions was a good sign, that it meant they were 'thirsting' for righteousness. How ironic that once they're in the organisation asking questions becomes a big no-no.