((((((GRacey))))))
Thank you for sharing so much. I know that must have taken a lot for you to share this much.
I too had a close friend whose mom knew her daughters were being abused by her husband and yet she turned a blind eye to it! I don't understand that depth of denial. That is a very sad person who cannot defend their own child. I am so sorry you had to live like that.
It's only natural that this experience has molded you somewhat. We all carry baggage from our upbringing. When you add the JW cult stuff it only amplifies any problems that were there already. You are smart to have left when you did. You have your whole life ahead of you. We are here for you.
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Hi Everyone I'm New
by Gracey inread my profile to learn a little about me.
i would love to hear from those whom have experienced similar backgrounds as myself.
as i said, read my profile and then get back with me.
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Well they FINALLY CALLED!!!!
by Lady Liberty inyou have asked me to keep you posted as to what happens here regarding the elders return.
as many of you know, we have been waiting for over 2 months for any kind of word back from them.
i kept telling my husband, " you would think that they would at least call, and say they haven't forgotten about us, that they are doing the research they promised to do.
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LL - well they are building there case against you. It's amazing how my dad and stepmom both told us months ago that "NO elders come after you for having questions about date stuff!" and now my dad and her are seeing first hand how the wheels have started churning back where we moved from, in order to build a case against us. Bethel and the some elders know the 607 stuff is B.S.! ( have you read Crisis of Conscience yet by Ray Franz?) Your description is exactly what I told my dad the first time we spoke about things. I said "I feel like I've stumbled onto something that I wasn't supposed to know about and they will take me down if I share this with anyone!" I am more than willing to share this info. with people but due to circumstances in my life I am trying to avoid DFing for one person. things may change down the road shortly though.
My dad talked with my hubby yesterday about the latest developments amongst our BOE's back home. (he is like our spy - it's great!) But I told him I have more info. on how the Society misrepresented Grayson's words in the Insight book (thanks LL!) and he wants a copy ASAP! He said to my hubby - "ya know, if all this stuff isn't true and I decide to not follow it anymore, I need to have all my proof here so that I can help others as well!" WOW!!!! we were floored. He's still going to meetings, and wants to be reappointed as an elder but he is slowly seeing things for what they really are. This was from a man who 2 months ago was begging us just to fade quietly so my brother and sister would still talk to us. Now he's starting to understand why it's SO HARD to not DEFEND yourself when you're pushed into a corner!
GOOD LUCK!
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Hello I'm new
by noni1974 in.
hi all i'm noni1974.i joined awhile ago but i have not posted at all.i have been around.some may know me some may not.i just wanted to say hi.. a little history of me.i was born in.i got baptized at 19 years old and left at 23.i am dissacociated.i've been free for 8 years.i am not shunned by my parents.i am lucky by most standards.i have one sister and one brother.both are in.my sister shunns me a little.she lives in a diffrant state than me so we don't talk all the time.but when she visits here i am allowed to see her sons.they know me as auntie noni.the last time i spoke to my brother was in january.he shunns me totaly.. i would rather be shunned than live a lie.so hello to all here.nice to meet you.
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Welcome Noni!
glad you joined in on the board. I have some family that shun and some that don't. It's so hard to deal with the shunners.
I hope you stick around. You are very right though. It's so much better than living a lie.
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Lola and her big mouth, stupid, stupid and sooooo stupid
by lola28 ini posted a little about this last night but i figured i would post the rest for you guys, this is the conversation that i had last night with the sister that studied with me.
she called me and wanted to know if i had plans for the memorial, i told her that i would not be going this year and the following is the conversation we had:.
jw: oh no, you can't miss the memorial, if you can't make it to the one in your hall why don't you cme to ours?.
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((((lola))))
we've all had those phone calls. It's SOOO HARD to not speak your mind when you are pushed into a corner. If you don't want to be called before a JC just deny anything she might say to the elders. There weren't "two witnesses" to your phone call. -
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Just found this page and wanted to introduce myself
by Rzach ini just found this page and wanted to introduce myself.
i noticed that there wasn't a category for introductions so i hope .
this is the right place.
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Welcome rzach!
I used to live in FL, west coast side. Glad you found this forum. It's so helpful to know others have been through the things you have. You may be able to even help others who are leaving now.
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Any One here interested in History??
by general ini was just wondering if we have an history fanatics on this forum.... i am personally into the napoleanic wars, american civil war, wwi, and wwii.
if anyone is into history whats your favorite time era??
war??
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I LOVE history! I pretty much love all of it, any time period. We have tons of old journals from my great grandparents and tons of old pictures and family trees. I love history about my heritage. I am for sure a History Channel junkie!
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Hotel Discounts, at conventions. Oh how we fooled ourselves!
by free2beme ini honestly thought, when i was a witness, that there was a special discount at hotels when i went to them at conventions.
not just a simple special that can be given to anyone, but rather an extra special discount that was negotiated with the watchtower society.
well that is not the case, i used to work in the hotel industry for a short while and we did conventions for everyone from religious organizations to clubs.
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the last few hotels we had to stay in for DC's, were DISGUSTING! I told hubby we would never stay in a hotel off the list anymore, and that was even before I realized the truth about "the truth!"
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a first for me
by mjarka911 inwell it's been 38 years - but i finally blew out my first birthday candles today!
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Happy b-day Mjarka911!!
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A question on " 1975 "
by The ini was reading some of the first " topics " on this db and i noticed that a few former elders and publishers .
were stumbled by this date.... i was born after 1975 and i'd really appreciate any comments from brothers and sisters who were around .
what i've noticed from personal experience is that many brothers and sisters feel that only " a few " were stumbeled .
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I was born in 1974 and I have heard my mother say that when she was pregnant with me, witnesses made comments to her in the effect of "how could you be having a baby! we could be in concentration camps next year!" my mom just laughs about it now. so weird.
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Sleeping at assemblies and conventions
by free2beme inmy in-laws still attend meetings and defend the faith to the best of their limited ability.
i saw limited, as their understanding of the faith ended somewhere around the 1980's and when you bring up new understanding, they think it might be apostate and do not listen.
there not alone, trust me, several witnesses do not grasp the changes.
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LOL Gumbiso!!
Oh yes, the poop lines to the toilets in 100 degree weather at Yankee Stinkin' Stadium. good times, my friend, good times! LOL