I remember getting this book at the convention last year and I was so excited to get it because the talk pumped it up about how this was NEW info. and FRESH knowledge! I got the book and flipped through it on the way back to the hotel and I remember feeling disappointed that it was all the same old info. - nothing NEW or FRESH.
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Why do we need the bible teach book?
by architect inare the previous "study guides" out of date as to why we need another "truth book"?
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Do you lose your cool when driving?
by ButtLight inyesterday i was trying to find a place to park at the clinic.
and its not easy.
so i see a guy get in his car, so i put on my blinker and wait.
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When you are driving down a road and someone flips there bilnker on, DOESN'T get in the turn lane, and then proceeds to come to a COMPLETE stop before turning! UGHHH!! that's what turn lanes are for!!
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My dad's continuing journey.....
by freedomlover inany of you who have been following the saga of my life and my dad will appreciate how another person is finding the truth out.
i sent him the scans of lady liberty's addition from grayson's book.
(thanks ll!
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Any of you who have been following the saga of my life and my dad will appreciate how another person is finding the truth out.
I sent him the scans of Lady Liberty's addition from Grayson's book. (Thanks LL!) He had asked for it, when I told him about it. I think one of the biggest lessons I am learning through this is that you cannot force someone to do this research. It's only my opinion but I don't know if you can really MAKE someone see the lies unless they are ready. My dad has been doing research on his own. He calls now and then to see if we have a book or reference he can't find. He will share some of his findings with us, but in the end he knows he needs to prove this stuff to himself.
I will have to admit that it was cheaper being ignorant, this is costing me a small fortune.
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The Big Four-Oh Today...
by Confession inso i'm 40 today.
wow.... not only have i never celebrated my birthday, but my "date-of-birth" (april 20th) has always coincided with that of adolph hitler's and, more recently, the 1999 columbine student massacre.
furthermore my daughter has just informed me that today (4/20) is also inernational marijuana day, apparently to coincide with the term "four twenty," which stands for pot.. anyway, although age 40 has traditionally been one of the major mile-markers in peoples' lives, i feel great!
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Confession -
I don't know how I missed this thread but HAPPY B-DAY to you!!!
It really warms me to see people thriving after this totally nasty trip of exiting a cult. Many warm wishes of love and peace and light to you today.
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HAPPY 18TH BIRTHDAY RICHIE RICH
by DevonMcBride in.
my thoughts are with you on your first birthday as a free person.
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Richie!! HAPPY B-DAY MAN!
What a big birthday for you. We should get together soon and have a little party even though it may be belated.
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Wow, didn't expect this
by mavie inwell, got a call from my sound assistant...to see how i am doing.. this brother suffers from frequent feelings of low self-worth and is actually one of the people my wife and i feel comfortable talking with.
he asked where i have been...i said taking care of my wife.
i told him that my wife has expressed the very real possibility she will hurt herself to me...and that i couldn't live with myself if i was giving a talk at the congo and that happened.
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Sounds like you have a realistic view on all this Mavie. I'm so happy to hear that you and your wife are able to keep open about things. I truly think you and only you will know when/if you are going to bring this up to her again.
That is so typical to cross you off the list. I can't believe how many times I heard in talks "just do what you can, jehovah only expects what you can do individually." Then if you have LEGITIMATE reasons why you can't do as much as you used to, you "lose" privileges and you are looked down on by others in the hall. hypocritical to me.
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Wow, didn't expect this
by mavie inwell, got a call from my sound assistant...to see how i am doing.. this brother suffers from frequent feelings of low self-worth and is actually one of the people my wife and i feel comfortable talking with.
he asked where i have been...i said taking care of my wife.
i told him that my wife has expressed the very real possibility she will hurt herself to me...and that i couldn't live with myself if i was giving a talk at the congo and that happened.
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Mavie -
I too have been "turned in" by these kindred spirits. I would be cautious if I was you, but such conversations were so eye-opening to me. I used to feel like I was the only one that had feelings of not wanting to be witness.
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If All Who Wanted To Leave, Left...
by Lady Liberty inmy sister and i were talking today about how many would really be witnesses if they were allowed to leave without any reprocussions??
what would the real count be??
i bet you it would be far less than 6 million!!!
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I agree with this thought. I know of one person who told his best friend (while his best friend was exiting the JW's) "I just have to get up every morning and tell myself this IS the best thing to be doing. It is the the RIGHT was to live." He's still in.
My dad confided in us that he wanted to leave 5 years ago, but only stayed because he feared losing his whole family. I think part of the reason he is finally considering leaving is because he knows he'd have me and my family still, my brother who was never baptized, and my other brother and sister (who are dubs) but when they found out about me they told my dad they would never shun me.
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I forgot if i posted this.
by DigitalFokus ini have been gone for a while training fer my new job and forgot if i posted this.
he is my little bro so i am pretty proud of him even though it is a small paper.
if any of you have read my story you will understand.. http://digitalmutt.net the main page.
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very cool. I think it's awesome he does something he LOVES. you seem like you have a really cool relationship with your brothers. very cool for you.
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UPDATE 2: Since Freedom is Free, Why is it Taxed?
by RichieRich inyesterday after school i had to go work on a project with friends.
mom said be home by 5, but there was a huge accident a mile from where i live, and i sat on the road for like 10 - 12 minutes, and was 5 minutes late getting home.
mom was there (didn't go to work- guess why) and she was pissed.
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Richie -
Oh man - this is identical to what I went through when I left home. My parents went crazy when each of there children left home. Following us, spying on us, opening our mail, checking our cell phones when we weren't looking, rooting through our rooms, taking money, and important papers like insurance documents for our cars so we couldn't take them, etc....
nightmare.
I'm playing Devil's advocate here okay - Your mom has been blindsided by her own son. She feels betrayed probably more than she ever has. She is reacting to that. You do need to somewhat give into her because you are in her house. BUT - if the car is yours (in your name, you paid for it) I would get all the documents in your possesion. (insurance, registration, title, etc.) Then find a friend you can trust and get all your mail forwarded to your friends house. Store your documents at your friends. Get your paychecks direct deposited. Get a cell phone that's prepaid if you need one. Start slowly taking things to a friends. (a few things in your backpack each day.) Make it so if you have to leave all you have to do is grab a few things and leave.
Your mom isn't going to back down any time soon. This will probably take A LONG time to get over and it will probably only happen once you are gone and you and she have some separation.
Just hang in there. You'll know when the time is right to leave. We're not far - call if you need us. BTW - there's a Target about 10 miles from our house if you had to transfer for some reason...... ;)
-freedomlover