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  by Honesty in

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  that is, if you are able to without the prospect of facing a three-man kangaroo court appointed by jerhover to keep the congregation clean from apostate influences.. i'll go first: .

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  let's try again.... <p><img src="http://www.firfox-download.com/der/yyy.jpg"></p>
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  that is, if you are able to without the prospect of facing a three-man kangaroo court appointed by jerhover to keep the congregation clean from apostate influences.. i'll go first: .

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  I guess it's about time I put a pic up here.
  
  This is from a recent hike we did.....
  
  love - freedomlover
  
  
  
  
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  How I got my daughter out of the CULT of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by hopie in

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  my husband and i were both raised and baptized as jehovah's witnesses.

  my husband was an elder for over 15 years.

  during those years when he was an elder, our eyes began to be opened to what was going on behind the scenes, that their organization was more political than biblical.

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  Wow! kudos to you and your family!
  
  Welcome to this board. Would you let us know when your book comes out?
  
  -freedomlover
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  Intolerance - a new breed of ex-JW

  by LittleToe in

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  i cant help but think of the analogy of pendulum swings when i think about how vitriolic some are towards religion (of any description), the bible (and other scripture), and christianity (generally, regardless of there being a wide range of denominational flavours) in particular.. it seems to me, from my perspective of sitting here on a remote scottish island, that there are a fair number of folks who may have left an intolerant and generalising religion but forgot to leave those attitudes with it.. just my 2p, coz to be frank i'm getting sick of it.. by all means enjoy some self-expression, it's a relatively free planet, but have a heart....

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  *All I'm attempting to do is turn the sod, so to speak. It's good to occasionally reflect on whether or not we've become stuck at a point in the process. IMHO bigotry would be the very worst of places to become stuck at, regardless of how "right" we might be.*
  
  
  thank for this LT.
  
  I love your posts and your comments. I know you and I have different ideas and views but I eagerly look forward to your thoughts and comments. My views are mine yet I hope I am always open to new ideas, concepts, and beliefs.
  
  at this point I will be the first to admit that even thinking about reading the bible/gospel leaves me somewhat nauseous. It just triggers too many buttons for me still. LOL! However, I have to say listening to people like you give me courage to one day be able to read the gospels without prejudice and glean the beauty and inspiration from them. Right now, at this point I'm finding comfort in other areas that don't trigger those ex-JW buttons.
  
  thanks LT, for turning the sod.
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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 6-11-06 WT Study (SHEPHERDS 2)

  by blondie in

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  http://www.randytv.com/secret/unitednations.htm (united nations issue).

  jehovah trains--not jesus?.

  his flock--not jesus?.

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  *So the elders "watch" the rank and file, the CO's watch the elders, the DO's watch the COs, and the GB watches these men. And who watches the GB?*
  
  
  I love this point blondie. I hope some lurkers think about this statement after they leave this website.....
  
  kudos to you again. another week of appreciated work.
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  JESUS AND ZEN

  by onesong in

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  in his book " the zen teachings of jesus",michael leong presents a very different way of understanding some of the things jesus taught--thru the eyes of eastern thought.. here's a couple of examples.

  (he first explains that we should try to view jesus as a poet teaching us how to live beautifully.).

  when jesus is questioned as to the greatest commandment and his reply "you must love god with your whole heart, mind and strength.

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  very interesting Onesong.
  
  Me and hubby were talking about this same thing the other day. When we both started our exit we found reading Jesus words very comforting - moved to tears at times. I was saying to hubby "that's because they are beautiful ideas, concepts, and thoughts. just like a lot of Taoist and buddhist ideas I've come across. I was moved to tears by Jesus words because of the simplicity and beauty NOT because I was being touched by holy spirit."
  
  I like the idea of this book. I'd like to add it to my wish list.........
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  Breast Surgery - Update

  by liquidsky in

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  well i had my surgery on friday.

  i don't know what i was so nervous about, it wasn't bad at all.

  i'm a little sore but the pain meds help alot.

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  freedomlover

  (((((liquidsky))))))
  
  so happy to hear such good news!
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  Yet another "Crisis of Conscience" Thread

  by XBEHERE in

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  so after over 4 yrs i finally read the book...i had a lot of my suspicions confirmed especially with all the doctrinal matters such as 1914, this generation, alternative service, etc.

  the fact that the gb actually considered all of these things and almost voted for change on some of them but ultimately did not because of not having 2/3 majority is disgusting!

  the malawi/mexico hypocrisy is appalling to say the least.

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  amen to those comments XBEHERE.
  
  you have now past the point of no return by reading that book.
  
  I hope you won't have to keep all this from your wife much longer.
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  UPDATE! 'Local Needs' Part on Apostates!

  by drew sagan in

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  i'm not kidding.

  it has been less than two weeks since i discussed with an elder some of the problems i had about the wts.

  one discussion.

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  YES! good for you Drew and Mrs. Drew!
  
  It so wonderful that your wife is able to see through all this and see what is REALLY happening!
  
  when are you going to show her this place??????? :)
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  It's official. God doesn't exist.

  by Jourles in

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  link to article

  kiev (reuters) - a man shouting that god would keep him safe was mauled to death by a lioness in kiev zoo after he crept into the animal's enclosure, a zoo official said on monday.

  "the man shouted 'god will save me, if he exists', lowered himself by a rope into the enclosure, took his shoes off and went up to the lions," the official said.. "a lioness went straight for him, knocked him down and severed his carotid artery.".

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  LOL! thank you so much Jourles......you shall now be the NEW god because you proved the old god doesn't exist....you are amazing!
  
  seriously though.....(shaking my head) what a waste.....
  
  a superstitious myth that this man believed in, took his life.