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  HELP ME!

  by theguy in

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  i'm in need of some information about this very interesting religion.

  1.sacred writings.

  2.holidays and rituels (dates if possible).

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  toby888

  It's not a religion, it is a dangerous cult under the guise of one. The "Bible Study" program is not study with critical thinking: it is indoctrination, and if you are not careful they will try to suck you in. They believe in demons and that demons can possess inanimate articles. They will try to alienate you from society by convincing you that all the holidays and voting are wrong. They believe that evolution is a "demon-inspired teaching". They discourage higher education because the org knows that as soon as a person has a chance to know the facts they will leave the cult. People like me who were in the cult and left are shunned by everybody who is still "a beliver" in my case even my oldest son and grandchildren.Ultimately their goal is to convert you and enslave you to their own repression for their own gratification and status in the congregation. They will never tell you about shunning, etc. until they believe you have been sufficiently isolated from your family and humanity at large. They hope you will become emotionally attached to their congregation by love bombing, etc. in the hopes you will sweep lingering doubts under the carpet and join in.

  Warning: Their teachings are laced with guilt and phobia implantations. The meetings are repetitive indoctrination sessions. So keep your distance, better yet, stay totally clear of them and just take it from many of us here in the forum, like me, an ex-JW having been one for 13 years.
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  How to destroy the Watchtower Organization

  by saved in

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  destroyed like bankrupt, unable to function as an organized religion, or whatever that will make all jws really wake up and think that this organization isn't what they think it is.. ideas?

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  toby888

  Perhaps the Governing Body should "Leave It to Beaver"
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  How to destroy the Watchtower Organization

  by saved in

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  destroyed like bankrupt, unable to function as an organized religion, or whatever that will make all jws really wake up and think that this organization isn't what they think it is.. ideas?

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  toby888

  Bring attention to the BLOOD TRANSFUSION DEATH PACT Simply stated, it can be found on the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures on page 1649, under the topic "blood" Here it says, "question of saving life not justify breaking God's Law". Thus we see in writing that Jehovah’s Witnesses are expected to die rather than receive a live-sustaining blood transfusion. Otherwise, severe sanctions in the form of shunning by friends and family will be brought to bear. The Society itself in its own publications acknowledges the deaths of fathers, mothers and children because of adherence to this doctrine.
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  Hello, I'm Aaron, and this is my story...

  by MetricRX in

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  dear reader,

  my name is aaron, and i have a brief story to tell regarding my youth as a jehovah's witnesses.

  my story is all too familiar for many who had the misfortune to find themselves unwilling participants in the religious activities of this group, but i would like to share my experience.

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  toby888

  Aaron: Thank you so much, I really laughed good for the first time since I DA'd!
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  Public Speaking...

  by Jordan in

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  i might need to talk tomorrow, i know it sounds silly but, for a good few years now, i've had major confidence issues when it comes to public speaking, anything else i'm fine with, and sometimes a bit of an extrovert, but put a microphone in front of me, and i'll stutter and fall apart before your eyes.

  well, a friend of mine was meant to give a pub quiz tomorrow, and i've reluctantly been pushed into doing it instead, it's not a big deal at all, it just means reading questions and answers into a microphone, but i know i'm going to balls it up.

  have any of you got any tips for getting over this stupid phobia i seem to have developed?

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  toby888

  From what I learned in my college speech class, preparation beforehand will give you all the confidence you need. The more you prepare, the more confident you will be.
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  Has Depression & Anger Lessened Since You've Stopped Attending Meetings?

  by minimus in

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  i see a lot of happier people around here.

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  Having been officially DA'd for a brief time I am happy to say with some talk therapy I have been able to decrease the number of my anxiety attacks caused by the WT mental poison of phobia implantations. I am now beginning to feel a deep seated hatred for this evil organization... but unlike the GB and the WTS in general I will not permit my hate to get the better of me, causing me to turn into a self-righteous judgemental hate monger. I will instead with help move on to more productive spheres.
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  Ghost, Spirits and the Dead

  by free2beme in

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  i always had a hard time as a witness, accepting their view on death.

  i actually think they offer a sad view on death that leaves an empty and depressing view for those left behind.

  i remember the comments, "they are asleep now," all so well.

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  toby888

  Thanks, Brenda, and hugs. But I know who can settle this thing once and for all: GHOSTBUSTERS!
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  Ghost, Spirits and the Dead

  by free2beme in

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  i always had a hard time as a witness, accepting their view on death.

  i actually think they offer a sad view on death that leaves an empty and depressing view for those left behind.

  i remember the comments, "they are asleep now," all so well.

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  toby888

  Brenda: Thanks for your reply. You mentioned that you have percieved these things and that they never leave behind any factual evidence (no physical or human explanation) so I would submit that what you were seeing was a mental construct. And I do not deny how real it must have appeared. I do submit however that by placing yourself in that "haunted hotel" you very powerfully self-implanted a predisposition to see something stange. And perhaps a certain emotional atmoshere of fright, adrenaline, etc. may have helped to precipitate the vision/experience you have had. However you must not deny the plain truth that there is no factual evidence that what you saw existed anywhere in external reality. I personally choose to acknowledge as true only those things which can pe proved or disproved with factual evidence, because I do not trust my human perception. The scientific method can help us to know what is really there, based on reason and evidence, and this in conjunction with our own perceptions can help us to know how the world really is. For me the world I see is clean and without devils, demons, satan, ghosts or evil charms.
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  Ghost, Spirits and the Dead

  by free2beme in

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  i always had a hard time as a witness, accepting their view on death.

  i actually think they offer a sad view on death that leaves an empty and depressing view for those left behind.

  i remember the comments, "they are asleep now," all so well.

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  toby888

  The human mind is very suggestible. I have noticed that in all cases of so-called "sightings" they are all eyewitness accounts only. There is never any hard evidence such as a picture or video taken under scientifically controlled circumstances. There has never been any physical evidence left behind. Nor, despite the supposed "great powers" of Demons have any verified predictions of important human events ever been recorded from so-called "spirit mediums". This all provides evidence that what you have both seen are merely creations in your own minds. Please don't be offended, because I used to be enslaved by "fear of demons" etc.and I know how easy it is to maybe think I saw someything "not right". Indeed, many completely rational people including yourself can under the correct circumstances and suggested thoughts, see things that didn't happen. I pride myself now as being a free-thinker so I don't want to be dogmatic on the issue one way or another but I have decided that in leiu of the total lack of factual evidence for these creatures (ghosts,etc) that they do not exist.

  Perhaps try adopting this approach yourself, and , like me, you may eventually notice that you simply don't see stuff like that anymore. Thanks for the post!
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  new member

  by jambon in

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  why do i feel guilty?????????????

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  toby888

  Welcome!! You feel quilty for a number of reasons: fear and guilt are used on you through the Watchtower publications to discourage you from "independent thinking" which really means rational thought. When you read the publications, note how they use subtle means to implant fear (life outside the org is bad, you will die at armaggeddon, you will degenerate into an amoral hedonist, etc) . Anyway you are here, feel free to look at our posts and see what we have been through. You can whine, cry, share your ups and downs, we are all here for you.