Posts by AuldSoul

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Defending outspoken atheism

by serotonin_wraith in

well vinny and probably some others have come to wonder about the purpose of outspoken atheism, especially when it is presented in a rude manner.

here's my thoughts on the matter.. many of us here will have relatives who are jehovah's witnesses.

we want them to escape from that cult.

AuldSoul

SW,

I don't mind anyone giving their side. I do mind them using proselytization tactics and "reality massaging" (spin) in their pursuit—whichever side they are on.

The old maxim about "religion holding back human progress" should be turned as a mirror to the scientific community in the case of Nikola Tesla, and others, who were sincere scientists burned at the metaphorical stake for their heresy. Tesla, the father of Alternating Current, offered up a radically different way to understand the nature of energy and the protectors of the sacred cow bludgeoned him into silence. Some have even been offered the option of recanting (retracting) and have stood firm for their beliefs.

Respectfully,
AuldSoul

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Defending outspoken atheism

by serotonin_wraith in

well vinny and probably some others have come to wonder about the purpose of outspoken atheism, especially when it is presented in a rude manner.

here's my thoughts on the matter.. many of us here will have relatives who are jehovah's witnesses.

we want them to escape from that cult.

AuldSoul

Most religions have enjoy the ability to oppress any train of thought that didn't agree with their view of the world for hundreds of years , even thousands ...

... so turnabout is fair play. We should have equal time oppressing views because our views are elevated above and are intellectually superior to most religions.

Wonderful endorsement. Carry on.

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The WTBTS Must believe their own stuff!

by BBOARD in

the manipulation of information"by clever and persevering use of propaganda even heaven can be represented as hell to the people, and conversely the most wretched life as paradise.

" adolf hitler, mein kampf.. .

as means of communicating have expandedfrom printing to the telephone, radio, television, and the internetthe flow of persuasive messages has dramatically accelerated.

AuldSoul

Yes, they do. So did most of us, at one time or another. Welcome.

Here's a thread you might enjoy.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/142829/1.ashx

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Defending outspoken atheism

by serotonin_wraith in

well vinny and probably some others have come to wonder about the purpose of outspoken atheism, especially when it is presented in a rude manner.

here's my thoughts on the matter.. many of us here will have relatives who are jehovah's witnesses.

we want them to escape from that cult.

AuldSoul

It's getting tough to have a good missionary conscience for any cause these days.

I dunno, Narkissos. I love my job. My wife and I take care of raising eleven 8th grade boys (8th grade is a Middle School aged boy here, ages 12-14 years old).

Without a good missionary conscience I don't think I could do it. By the way, eat more Hershey's Chocolate if you want to aid my mission. Mr. Hershey made sure the Trust that owns the Hershey's stock established caring for the socially and/or economically disadvantaged kids where I work as its primary mission. This place is the reason Hershey's makes candy.

Respectfully,
AuldSoul

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Defending outspoken atheism

by serotonin_wraith in

well vinny and probably some others have come to wonder about the purpose of outspoken atheism, especially when it is presented in a rude manner.

here's my thoughts on the matter.. many of us here will have relatives who are jehovah's witnesses.

we want them to escape from that cult.

AuldSoul

The assertion that God exists is no different than an assertion that one doesn't
I couldn't disagree more strongly! This argument has been had so many times, I just can't be arsed to go over it again.

Nicolaou, in the specific context of whether it can be proven one way or the other, and despensing with the framework of the scientific method which would require proof of claims beyond singular, individual evidence, Para's comment is right on target.

Scientifically minded folks who don't want to believe in God say: "(1) The burden of proof rests on those making a claim. (2) You cannot prove a negative. (3) Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. We scientifically minded folks have made these rules and declared them correct. Therefore, based solely on these correct rules we have made, our claim that God doesn't exist, in the absence of contrary proof, is more correct than you religionists claiming that God does exist until proven otherwise."

Believers view even the premise quite differently, and insist that they have no need to prove the existence of a God beyond proving it to themselves. Personal experience is a type of evidence currently off-limits to objective sciences.

Both sides have proselytizers to their camp; the "outspoken atheists" would fit that category, as well, proselytizers seeking converts to the side of "reason" that they interpret to mean "agreement with our correct rules, within which paradigm God cannot possibly exist until scientifically proven otherwise". Anyone who doesn't agree with the correct rules is unreasonable.

I emphasize that side's perspective when writing to you for obvious reasons.

Respectfully,
AuldSoul

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Canadian Loonie closes above US Dollar...

by zeroday in

jw
friends

http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2007/09/28/loonie.html?ref=rss.

how will this affect canadian exports to the us....

AuldSoul

C'mon, HS, you and I both know that the economy is as fake as a two-dollar coin (evil-grin). It is based solely on public perception of value; i.e. the dollar—any "dollar"—will not buy more or less than consumer confidence permits.

It is all smoke and mirrors. The relative values attached to various elements of "the economy" are all perception-based and are therefore entirely subjective. Entities skilled at manipulating public perception have been controlling perceptions about "the economy" for centuries; to the point that few even bring themselves to admit that the economy doesn't actually exist.

There will be an "Amero" eventually. Globalization requires it. The question becomes, not whether, but, when? When public perception permits it.

Respectfully,
AuldSoul

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Canadian Loonie closes above US Dollar...

by zeroday in

jw
friends

http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2007/09/28/loonie.html?ref=rss.

how will this affect canadian exports to the us....

AuldSoul

I think this is an intentional manipulation to make swallowing the idea of an Amero unit of money more palatable for the U.S. voting population.

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The Watchtower has trained us well.....to be vocal apostate's!

by megsmomma in

jw
friends

i was thinking about how "against" the watchtower so many are.

we are outspoken about it and want people we love to get out too.

we are very vocal about it...more so than a-lot of people are when they leave a religion.

AuldSoul

It is unnatural to speak to strangers about religion. If not for the WT teaching me to do that I don't know that I'd be very capable on that score. But they also trained me to be a vocal apostate by providing so much cause for being honestly repulsed by their religion, practices, interpretations, and so on.

Respectfully,
AuldSoul

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The Watchtower has trained us well.....to be vocal apostate's!

by megsmomma in

jw
friends

i was thinking about how "against" the watchtower so many are.

we are outspoken about it and want people we love to get out too.

we are very vocal about it...more so than a-lot of people are when they leave a religion.

AuldSoul

Vocal apostates with very incisive words. We know how to cut straight to the heart. And, thanks to the Internet, we meet and teach each other to be more capable apostates, to be more incisive, more creative, to have more approaches that the Reasoning book authors ever dreamed up ... to be much more effective at drawing people away from their cultic safety blanket.

Respectfully,
AuldSoul

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"Nor men kept for unnatural purposes..."

by PopeOfEruke in

wtf is that about?.

pope.

AuldSoul

Sex Slaves???

Yes, please. Two, if it isn't too much of a bother. Perhaps I should specify gender and general attractiveness ... which columns do I use on the order form, Eff?