The outside. I am fairly okay with the inside, since I don't have to look at it very often. I wouldn't mind changing the outside, though.
AuldSoul
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OMG! OMG! I have some good news!
by erynw infinally, right.
ok. i know this jw lady that i talk to.
she doesn't know i am an exjw.
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AuldSoul
WOW!!
Nothing like a well-meaning, friendly call to the ol' Serve-US Desk to clue a thinking JW in to the fact that their actually IS a clergy/laity division; and it will crush any laity member that dares forget the fact.
Won't be long now [crossing fingers] I know EXACTLY which "brother" I hope answers her call. If she says "child abuse" in a female's voice she will probably not get very far at all.
That is excellent news.
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Active JWsThe United Nations is a Superior Authority
by AuldSoul inwatchtower november 15, 1962 ("subjection to 'superior authorities'why?
") p. 688 pars.
32 under startling symbols the last book of the bible has foretold the national groups or associations that are to exist during this time of the end from 1914 onward; for example, the devils visible earthly organization, also the british-american dual world power, and the league of nations and the united nations.(rev.
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I'm not sure how, but a paragraph of mine was accidentally included in the quote box for the Watchtower article. Paragraph 33 should read:
33 The applicableness of Romans 13:1 did not end, however, with 1914. The end of the “appointed times of the nations” in that year still left the Gentile “superior authorities” in existence on earth, but under judgment by God’s kingdom that was set up in the heavens in 1914, with his Son Jesus Christ enthroned at his right hand. Those Gentile “superior authorities” still exist, though undergoing many changes and readjustments. Almighty God will continue permitting this until his work of gathering sheeplike people out of the nations is finished according to his will. Then he will begin the universal war called Armageddon in order to destroy them.
Followed by this paragraph of mine:
While the United Nations is a superior authority, it and all other "superior authorities" have been under judgment by God since 1914 according to the Governing Body. The fact that they teach that the United Nations is a superior authority does not mitigate the fact that they VOLUNTARILY joined the propaganda arm of a superior authority and maintained their Associate membership for ten years.
Thanks, NN for pointing out the error.
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Active JWsThe United Nations is a Superior Authority
by AuldSoul inwatchtower november 15, 1962 ("subjection to 'superior authorities'why?
") p. 688 pars.
32 under startling symbols the last book of the bible has foretold the national groups or associations that are to exist during this time of the end from 1914 onward; for example, the devils visible earthly organization, also the british-american dual world power, and the league of nations and the united nations.(rev.
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AuldSoul
Any active JW at all ... anyone?
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Active JWsThe United Nations is a Superior Authority
by AuldSoul inwatchtower november 15, 1962 ("subjection to 'superior authorities'why?
") p. 688 pars.
32 under startling symbols the last book of the bible has foretold the national groups or associations that are to exist during this time of the end from 1914 onward; for example, the devils visible earthly organization, also the british-american dual world power, and the league of nations and the united nations.(rev.
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AuldSoul
Watchtower November 15, 1962 ("Subjection to 'Superior Authorities'—Why?") p. 688 pars. 32, 33
32 Under startling symbols the last book of the Bible has foretold the national groups or associations that are to exist during this “time of the end” from 1914 onward; for example, the Devil’s visible earthly organization, also the British-American dual world power, and the League of Nations and the United Nations.(Rev. 13:1 to 19:20) Jehovah God also foretold the destruction of these “superior authorities” in the “war of the great day of God the Almighty.” The apostle Paul wrote his letter regarding these “superior authorities” during the Gentile Times in the days of the Roman Empire. The Watchtower is publishing this article about them forty-eight years after the Gentile Times ended in 1914.
33 The applicableness of Romans 13:1 did not end, however, with 1914. The end of the “appointed times of the nations” in that year still left the Gentile “superior authorities” in existence on earth, but under judgment by God’s kingdom that was set up in the heavens in 1914, with his Son Jesus Christ enthroned at his right hand. Those Gentile “superior authorities” still exist, though undergoing many changes and readjustments. Almighty God will continue permitting this until his work of gathering sheeplike people out of the nations is finished according to his will. Then he will begin the universal war called Armageddon in order to destroy them. While the United Nations is a superior authority, it and all other "superior authorities" have been under judgment by God since 1914 according to the Governing Body. The fact that they teach that the United Nations is a superior authority does not mitigate the fact that they VOLUNTARILY joined the propaganda arm of a superior authority and maintained their Associate membership for ten years.(1) Is the UN/DPI a non-religious (i.e. "secular") organization with objectives contrary to the Bible as the Bible is explained by the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses, and therefore (according to them) "under judgment by Jehovah God"?
Yes.
(2) Did the WTS voluntarily JOIN the UN/DPI?
Yes.Organized to Do Jehovah's Will (2005) p. 155 par. 2
For example, a person might renounce his place in the Christian congregation by his actions, such as by becoming part of a secular organization that has objectives contrary to the Bible and, hence, is under judgment by Jehovah God.(Isa. 2:4; Rev. 19:17-21) If a person who is a Christian chooses to join those who are disapproved by God, a brief announcement is made to the congregation, stating:“[Name of person] is no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.” Such a person is treated in the same way as a disfellowshipped person. The presiding overseer should approve this announcement.If the standard SETTERS cannot be held to their own standards of judgment, which are imposed on all Jehovah's Witnesses worldwide, how can anyone believe there are not cheating scales and different sets of weights for the organization than for the adherents?
Matthew 23:25-28
“Woe to YOU,[Writing Committee] and [Governing Body], hypocrites! because YOU cleanse the outside of the cup and of the dish, but inside they are full of plunder and immoderateness. Blind Pharisee, cleanse first the inside of the cup and of the dish, that the outside of it also may become clean.
“Woe to YOU,[Writing Committee] and [Governing Body], hypocrites! because YOU resemble whitewashed graves, which outwardly indeed appear beautiful but inside are full of [secret memberships, hidden pedophilia, cheating scales, false prophecy] and of every sort of uncleanness. In that way YOU also, outwardly indeed, appear righteous to men, but inside YOU are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.Would any active JWs care to explain why I should NOT view them the way Jesus viewed the Pharisees?
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JWs are "peddlers of the word of God"
by AuldSoul inmerriam-webster french-english dictionary .
main entry: peddler.
function: noun.
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AuldSoul
fresia,
peddlers (salespersons, distributors) of books are colporteurs.
There is NO QUESTION whether a French speaking person thought the term meant something other than "peddler." The Yearbook was recounting an example of a call for colporteurs that was published in a FrenchWatch Tower in 1921.
Jehovah's Witnesses direct people to BOOKS AND MAGAZINES, and they teach that the Bible cannot be understood properly without these extra books. According to their doctrine, the Holy Spirit is alright and all, but it really takes books, LOTS AND LOTS of books and magazines to REALLY be led into all truth.
The only problem with that is: Jesus said the Holy Spirit would lead Christians into all truth, and John said once we receive the spirit we don't need anyone to be teaching us anything, and Paul said that it is the SPIRIT that searches into all things, even the deep things of God.
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JWs are "peddlers of the word of God"
by AuldSoul inmerriam-webster french-english dictionary .
main entry: peddler.
function: noun.
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AuldSoul
Thank you, bluesapphire.
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JWs are "peddlers of the word of God"
by AuldSoul inmerriam-webster french-english dictionary .
main entry: peddler.
function: noun.
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Merriam-Webster French-English Dictionary
Main Entry: peddler
Function: noun
Usage: English word
: colporteur (masculine), colporteuse (feminine)Merriam-Webster Unabridged Dictionary
Main Entry: col·por·teur Pronunciation Guide
Variant(s): also col·por·ter \kälprd.r,-pr-\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s):-s
Etymology: French colporteur, alteration (influenced by porter à col to carry on one's back, literally, neck) of Middle French comporteur (from comporter to hawk, peddle, carry, bring together)+-eur -or -- more at COMPORT
: a peddler of books, especially of bibles and religious books and tracts; also : a missionary or publicist for some usually religious causeWhat were the early Russellites asked to become?
1980 Yearbook, p.56 France
A call for colporteurs was published in the October 1921 issue of the French Watch Tower. The preaching work was being carried out mainly through the distribution of the book Millions Now Living Will Never Die. The Society printed a special letter for the brothers to use in offering this book to their relatives and friends.There is no way a French speaking person could understand "colporteur" as anything OTHER than a peddler. They began as peddlers of the word of God. They carry on that same grand tradition to this day, and congratulate themselves for it.
2 Corinthians 2:15-17 — For to God we are a sweet odor of Christ among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing; to the latter ones an odor issuing from death to death, to the former ones an odor issuing from life to life. And who is adequately qualified for these things? For we are not peddlers of the word of God as many men are, but as out of sincerity, yes, as sent from God, under God’s view, in company with Christ, we are speaking.
They were NOT sent from God. They were NOT under God's view. They ARE NOT in the company of Christ. They just speak. Endlessly.
Ecclesiastes 12:12 — As regards anything besides these, my son, take a warning: To the making of many books there is no end, and much devotion [to them] is wearisome to the flesh.
But these false apostles of Christ brag about the number of books they publish and distribute. They are indeed wearisome. Ask any JW whether they have found the time to read everything the Watchtower Society publishes. Then ask if they ever feel guilty for not doing so.
If they say they have read it all, they are lying. If they say they don't feel guilty for not reading it all, then they are either lying or they are apathetic toward what the Governing Body tells them.
How different Christ Jesus is.
Matthew 11:28-30 — "Come to me, all YOU who are toiling and loaded down, and I will refresh YOU. Take my yoke upon YOU and learn from me, for I am mild-tempered and lowly in heart, and YOU will find refreshment for YOUR souls. For my yoke is kindly and my load is light."
The load JWs carry is not light at all. It is very weighty. Peddling God's word is hard work, and their religious leaders tell them nothing is more important right now than to carry out that hard work. It is not Christ's load, it is one invented by men who claim to speak in Jesus' behalf. Their peddling works prove they do not speak for Jesus.
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Can anyone tell me why this "test" works...this is SO SPOOKY!
by FreedomFrog inok, can anyone tell me why this works?
this is so freakin' cool.
do the test as it is instructed...don't cheat.
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Do you find the Jan 15-08 WT disturbing?
by cultswatter ini have now read the jan 15-08 about 3 times.
every time that i do, i get madder and madder.
here are some things that i find disturbing.
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My mother and family still in are perfectly happy with their choice, just like I'm happy with mine.
Maybe that's a key difference, R6. My family isn't perfectly happy with their choice. They are perfectly miserable, incredibly tired, extremely disappointed, and doggedly loyal to the organization.
My wife isn't perfectly happy with her choice.
Since that is the case and since I care about their happiness, I try to stay abreast of current changes in hopes of helping them break free: maybe they will see there is no reason for loyalty to that organization. Once they see that, they will leave.
So that's the only difference from most here, almost everyone here has to deal with being shunned by family or friends I didn't.
That's definitely a key difference. If you haven't lost anything, no wonder you don't seek to get anything back.
Respectfully,
AuldSoul