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  SCAN OF THE LATEST "QUESTIONS FROM READERS"!

  by deaconbluez in

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  AuldSoul

  I am sure you have already taken care of this, but I sure hope that routing and account information is not a real bank account.

  The article was hilarious!
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  Assembly Deficits

  by WTWizard in

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  i noticed a number of people have already had their summer a$$emblies, and fall a$$emblies are yet to come.

  what i would like to see is how many have noticed a deficit on the last afternoon accounts report, and if known, about how big was it.

  also, did they have a surplus at an earlier report, particularly if the surplus was big and the amount of the deficit was impossibly large.

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  AuldSoul

  WTWizard, I wish you hadn't mixed the two messages. Your initial request is a perfectly valid one.

  The Accounting Department does create a deficit for the last day. This is done through increasing the pledged District/Circuit donation to the Worldwide Work.
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  Shammatta—"Disfellowshipping" Jewish Style

  by AuldSoul in

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  matthew 24:48-51 48 but if ever that evil slave should say in his heart, "my master is delaying," and should start to beat his fellow slaves and should eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, and will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his part with the hypocrites.

  there is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.. insight on the scriptures, volume 1, p. 787, expelling.

  finally, there was shammatta, an entire cutting off from the congregation.

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  emptywords: Did you feel superior to the average joe, being an elder and all, gee wiz you would sit on commitees and judge, listen to confessions, view service reports and come and visit us at times when our service was not at the GB status report.

  There may be some elders posting here who did, emptywords, but I imagine the sort that leave wouldn't really be into the power trip thing as much. I'd wager that every elder and ex-elder here knows at least one elder who revels in the authority. I know quite a few, but at one time or another I was in 9 congregations and visted two others often enough to know the elders very well. Between that and serving at conventions and assemblies you learn to discern who is in it for the glory.

  Respectfully,
  AuldSoul
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  All Ex-Elders, Mr.Flipper going to Final MeetingW/Elders! I'll be careful!

  by flipper in

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  hello ex-elders, onthe wayout, snakes, and wilyloman, just to refresh about a month ago i told you all that the appeal committee had overturned the disfellowshipping decision by the original jc as the appeal committee got a hold of me by phone and told me the society gave them direction in this.

  i have since explained the situation to my witness mom and dad, 80 &82, they are good with it.

  i am taking copies of the counsel you ex elders gave to me to be careful about what i say at this "alleged encouragement" meeting and promise you this, i'll watch my words carefully when they ask me questions.

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  AuldSoul

  Great news!
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  Shammatta—"Disfellowshipping" Jewish Style

  by AuldSoul in

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  matthew 24:48-51 48 but if ever that evil slave should say in his heart, "my master is delaying," and should start to beat his fellow slaves and should eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, and will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his part with the hypocrites.

  there is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.. insight on the scriptures, volume 1, p. 787, expelling.

  finally, there was shammatta, an entire cutting off from the congregation.

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  AuldSoul

  Thanks for sharing that experience, sir82.

  How did those interactions influence your opinion of the upper echelon of the organization?

  Did you feel loved and cared for by the men who wouldn't tell you their names?

  Do you see the practice of disfellowshipping among JWs as an act of love? And why?
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  Shammatta—"Disfellowshipping" Jewish Style

  by AuldSoul in

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  matthew 24:48-51 48 but if ever that evil slave should say in his heart, "my master is delaying," and should start to beat his fellow slaves and should eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, and will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his part with the hypocrites.

  there is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.. insight on the scriptures, volume 1, p. 787, expelling.

  finally, there was shammatta, an entire cutting off from the congregation.

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  LittleToe: While he may not concur with comments about the extent of the corruption in the organisation he's at least entitled to his opinion based upon his own subjective experiences, isn't he?

  Everyone is always entitled to their own opinion. But he is not entitled to offer his opinions as though he is a contradictory authority on the issue if his subjective experiences do not include the interactions specifically addressed. To do so is a logical fallacy: argument from personal incredulity.

  Everyone is entitled to hold an opinion on any matter. Everyone is not always entitled to argue their opinion as logically valid, especially not if they are going to peevishly contradict someone in the arguing.

  Respectfully,
  AuldSoul
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  Shammatta—"Disfellowshipping" Jewish Style

  by AuldSoul in

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  matthew 24:48-51 48 but if ever that evil slave should say in his heart, "my master is delaying," and should start to beat his fellow slaves and should eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, and will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his part with the hypocrites.

  there is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.. insight on the scriptures, volume 1, p. 787, expelling.

  finally, there was shammatta, an entire cutting off from the congregation.

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  LittleToe: ...your rebuttal of his comment about comparisons to the first century is a little over the top and nitpicking in the extreme.

  Maybe its a cultural thing, LittleToe, a bit of something lost in translation. I told him it was a flawed interpretation on his part, he pressed the issue further and with more aspersion, so I verbally stomped on his big toe to stop his belaboring of a false impression of his.

  LittleToe: For this reason I personally hold that the shunning policy is the thing that distinguishes them as a cult.

  I agree that this distinguishes them as a cult, but I think there is another doctrine that would also fit the bill. The doctrine that the organization provides all the Spiritual information; that they should look nowhere outside the organization for Spiritual insights is also a mark of a cult.

  The man who was later welcomed back was never shunned by an imposed organizational edict. Paul even admits that the admonition was only given by the majority, meaning the choice of whether to shun the person was left to the individual congregant. It doesn't seem to me that sort of policy would have been out of harmony with Matthew 18:15-17, so long as the one expelled could still be treated as Jesus and Paul treated men of the nations and tax collectors.

  Respectfully,
  AuldSoul
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  Prize for who can guess who is on my new avatar...

  by slimboyfat in

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  well i ain't got a real prize, but i could find an appropriate emoticon for anyone who gets it right.

  it is a person my great grandmother knew, and he was quite famous in his day, and i semi-admire him with a little caution.

  slim .

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  AuldSoul

  SBF, I don't pay back vexation for vexation.
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  Shammatta—"Disfellowshipping" Jewish Style

  by AuldSoul in

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  matthew 24:48-51 48 but if ever that evil slave should say in his heart, "my master is delaying," and should start to beat his fellow slaves and should eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, and will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his part with the hypocrites.

  there is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.. insight on the scriptures, volume 1, p. 787, expelling.

  finally, there was shammatta, an entire cutting off from the congregation.

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  AuldSoul

  Listener: I can dislike apple pie, but like apples.

  Beautiful analogy.

  Also, I did not know Bethelites called non-bethelites "worldly JWs." That was a new one for me, thanks. Given some of the Bethelites I know, the reverse might be more appropriate.
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  Prize for who can guess who is on my new avatar...

  by slimboyfat in

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  well i ain't got a real prize, but i could find an appropriate emoticon for anyone who gets it right.

  it is a person my great grandmother knew, and he was quite famous in his day, and i semi-admire him with a little caution.

  slim .

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  AuldSoul

  Looks like Gregory Peck's chin, to me. But, brinjen wins.