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  FREE AT LAST....THANK GOD ALMIGHTY....

  by LuciousJ in

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  we wrote our da letter, mailed off a copy to the society & put the other copy in the drop box at the kh yesterday.

  the elders had called us every day from saturday through tuesday wanting us to come in to meet....so they could df us i'm sure & probably at tonight's meeting mind you.

  funny thing......after dropping off our letter yesterday before service time started, we received no phone call last night.

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  Muchos Congratsos!

  Most excellent news! It always warms my blackened soul to see someone escape the tenticles of the tower. You and yours got busy living. woohoo!
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  Hello, new here.

  by Rob Lenski in

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  just trying out my id.. what denomination do you enjoy sharing with most?

  which do you enjoy sharing with least?.

  rob

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  forsharry

  Thank you for choosing JWD for all your travel needs! Located in your seat back in front of you, you will find a safety brochure that will outline all off the safety features and procedures of this aircraft. If you are seated in an exit row and are either unable or unwilling to perform the duties outlined in the brochure, please contact a stewardess and arrangments will be be made to have you relocated to another seat in the cabin.

  I like talking philosophy an theology with anyone really...except thosed dastardly cultists!
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  As An Ex or Fading Witness, Do You Have Any Goals?

  by minimus in

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  do you hope to accomplish anything at this point in your life?

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  forsharry

  I hope to publish a book in the future and go back to college for my RN. I also want to take over the world, but that's more of my ten year plan than anything else.
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  Which cities are worth a visit?

  by DannyBloem in

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  what cities are worth a visit of at least 3 days?.

  the cities i can think of:.

  (not ordered in any way.

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  forsharry

  Toronto, Portland, Prague, Sydney, Williamsburg, Washington D.C., Sassnitz (Isle of Ruegen, Germany), Berlin, Niagara Falls, Quebec City, San Fransisco :)
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  Are Wedding Rings Pagan?

  by KW13 in

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  are wedding rings pagan?

  i want to use this, if its correct.

  if they are pagan, how pagan are they?

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  forsharry

  Wedding rings date back much further than you probably imagine. Primitive man would capture a woman and encircle her wrists and ankles with chains to prevent her from escaping. Yet another ancient practice involved circling her body with a rope, which would both keep her from evil sprits and bind her to him. Even in seventeenth-century BC Egypt, wedding rings had a supernatural significance, linked by their never-ending band with eternal love. Ironically, the early Christian Church initially rejected wedding rings as relics of a Pagan time, but gradually adopted the practice.

  Many believe the origin of wedding rings as we now know them is that it was the outcome of the ancient Egyptian custom of placing a piece of ring-money (used before coins were introduced) on the bride’s finger to indicate that she was endowed with her husband’s wealth. This symbolism is retained in the modern marriage service.

  In Roman times betrothal and nuptial rings were used as seals and symbols of ownership and wealth. Once, only highly ranked senators could wear gold rings, bearing seals of state. Others were allowed only rings of iron and some of these were keys to access storerooms. On marriage, the responsibility for the keys to a man's storeroom were given over to his bride and so came about the custom of giving a wedding ring or Pronumbum (later a token gold ring) and with it 'all his worldly goods'. It was not presented to the bride during the actual ceremony, however, but after she had been lifted over the threshold of her new home. The presentation of the key denoted the confidence placed in her by her husband and was a token that henceforth she should share all that he possessed.

  Why the third finger of the left hand should have received the particular honour of being selected both in pagan and Christian times has been variously interpreted.

  One rather quaint theory, which possibly goes back to the Egyptians, is the belief that a delicate vein, (the aptly named ‘vena amoris’) runs from that finger to the heart; another is that the left hand represents submission and the right hand domination – clear messages there! A popular magazine writer ascribed another reason that the third finger has long been considered sacred and hence has been consecrated to wear the wedding ring.

  However, the belief that the wedding ring has always been worn upon the fourth finger of the left hand is mistaken. During the fifteenth century in certain provinces in Europe, the wedding ring was placed on the fourth finger of the bride’s right hand. In Peter Heylyn’s ‘History of the Reformation’(1661) he says “that the man should put the wedding ring on the fourth finger of the left hand, and not on the right hand as has been continued for many hundreds of years.” Certainly some fashionable ladies in the 16th and 17th centuries took to wearing wedding rings on their thumbs!

  It was not until the time of the Reformation in England that the custom of wearing a wedding band on the left hand became the norm and still, in Greece and other places, the right hand was considered the hand of power, authority and independence whilst the left was the hand of subjection and dependence and the more fitting place for the wife to wear her symbol of subjugation to her husband; so it was ordered in The English Book of Common Prayer that the ring be placed on the fourth finger of the woman's left hand.

  ((Just adding more from what the gentleman above me stated. Definitely has Pagan origins!))
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  A big day for me!!!!

  by ex-perfectdaughter in

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  while i've been fading for about a year.

  i decided to go back to school full time.

  i graduate this weekend!!!!

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  You think that made you feel good...just imagine what it'll feel like if you put all the books on your driveway (or parking spot if you live in an apartment, like I do) douse them in lighter fluid and roast those bad boys! MUAHAHAAHA FIRE FIRE FIRE!

  It was actually pretty fun for me, to throw them out and tear up the ones that had the really thin paper....this stuff also starts a very nice fire in a fireplace. ;) (again with the fire)
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  If the end is so close, are the elders trying to contact lost sheep?

  by JH in

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  i've been hearing left and right that the end is so close now.

  ok, but it doesn't show in their actions.. no one is knocking at my door.....

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  Gee...I wouldn't really call myself lost...nor a sheep at that point. I'm more of a cuddly wolverine-like animal. And I have an impeccable sense of direction too, I'll have you know. :)

  I've been wondering that too actually. Of course in the very act of typing this reply galactic powers will be alerted and I'll have a line forming at my house when I get home of door-to-door religious salesmen, but here goes...

  Not a single witness has knocked at my door in almost 10 years. I just find that...intriguging. They don't know who I am, cause I have mad ninja relocating skills. I'm not inviting, believe me, but I just found it curious.
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  Have you heard this one-the end is very close, maybe 2 years

  by sspo in

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  my good witness friend was trying to encourage me spiritually and this is what's being speculated among the witnesses.

  how long was adam alone before eve was created, well at least 31 years so far.

  1975 was the end of 6000 years of man's existence.. from 1975 to 2006, it is 31 years.. when was jesus ministry over?

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  and you know what happens when we make an assumption kids, right?

  The end is going to be October 19, 2036.

  This is based on highly scientific data extrapolated of a pile of numbers (and months for that matter) on little slips of paper that I had in an empty goldfish snack bag. They're also a little greasy now too.
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  The JW dress code.....yuck

  by JH in

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  this morning i took a long walk and happened to walk near by a small christian church.

  and i could see them come out of the building after their meeting.

  they were all dressed differently, some in clean sunday clothes, some in clean jeans, but no one in a suit like the jw's do.

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  I think that's why i worship naked now. :)

  No, I'm serious. Pray in the shower...you can't get much closer to god than that.

  Or in a bar...I have some of the most meaningful religious conversations and find significant religous points over a drink or two or five.

  Forsharry

  of the "Nylons are for Bank Robbers Class"
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  Uninvited--A Wonderful "Witness"

  by Merry Magdalene in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i attended my mother's memorial at the kingdom hall saturday afternoon.

  even with the jw sermon tagged on, my cousin did a lovely service for her.

  there were many jws and non-jws in attendence.

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  forsharry

  I just can't stop shaking my head at this.

  I'm so sorry to hear that you were subjected to that...I'm sorry, but I'm not surprised. I'm not gonna say shoulda, woulda, coulda on this. It could have played out in a multitude of ways...both good bad, and hilariously funny but I'm sure imminently illegal as well. ;) I think that from what you wrote you handled it with a level of rational dignity I'm not sure I could have mustered. I applaud you for that...and I think ultimately what that P.O. said doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things?

  It's just a nother reinforcement that leaving the org was the right choice. It was also nice that those in attendance granted you condolences and sympathy that you rightfully deserved. Don't let that arse ruin the memory of your mother's memorial.

  ::HUGS::